[UT] reduced lethality full auto carbines

[jacobmuller]

The links worked this time.
Good grief - it* fractured her skull and she bled to death - surreal tragedy.
Aim for their legs and then pray they don't have toddlers along.
EDIT * I zoomed in on those rounds - no wonder it killed her.

[vierasmarius]

Originally Posted by Fred Brackin

If you wonder, chemicals and electrical weapons can also be either unsafe and/or ineffective sometimes both at the same time. Human beings don't really come with off-switches and especially not reversile ones.

Additionally, individual humans are so incredibly varied in body type, allergies, and various health factors that no single weapon can be consistently effective but non-lethal to one person without also being completely ineffective and/or lethal to someone else. A big guy or someone hopped up on drugs may simply ignore baton rounds or pepperspray, while a smaller or more fragile person could be seriously injured. Narcotics are especially problematic; there are cases where drug users didn't stop until they were Tasered to death.

I suspect that police will continue to choose weapons that are effective against the majority of people, and hopefully powerful enough to stop the biggest, even if they are a serious danger to others. They'll rely on training and discretion to avoid excessive injuries, but their primary concerns tend to be protecting their fellow officers and containing the situation. If this causes a few broken limbs or even deaths, they'll just deal with the public backlash as best they can.

[Sam Cade]

Originally Posted by jacobmuller

My firewall blocked those sites:(

What the heck? Why?

Originally Posted by jacobmuller

[B]Did I get the stats in the ballpark?

It is only about 25 foot pounds (131g at 280) so 2 points of damage or thereabouts seems right.

[Fred Brackin]

Originally Posted by jacobmuller

Did I get the stats in the ballpark? 1d-4 (0.2) Cr, 30/150?

The FN 303 is in High Tech for 1D-3(.5) and 25/110

[jacobmuller]

They are labelled Reduced lethality.
Thank you for the stats/ links (weird that it blocks those site-links first pass but opens them in the quote).
Sad but I had to look up how that incident would come out in GURPS: miss your target, roll for bystander/scatter, get a 3 or 4, random location Face or Skull, Head critical hit 6 or 7: treat as Eye hit even if it normally can't be.