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1) Dragons are smart, ancient, eldritch creatures who are near immortal and indestructible. Typically powerful with magic (or psi or whatever). 2) Dragons are a rapacious virus on the land. They eat everything in sight, kill everything in sight, etc. The first time is probably great for a typical fantasy setting while the second is probably better for DF-style games. Ogre is going to be great. I personally can't wait. :-) Getting new GURPS stuff will be pretty cool too.
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05-21-2013, 09:36 PM | #12 |
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Re: Quick Question: Monster Classes and Subclasses
GURPS Fantasy offered a classification of types of monsters. But you have to bear in mind that the GURPS Fantasy treatment views "monster" as distinct from "animal": An animal belongs to a species, but a monster is something inherently abnormal that in effect is its own unique species. Given that, GURPS Fantasy has around half a dozen broad general variants of "abnormality."
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Ahh yes the true dragon/worm approach. That can actually work quite well too. Good point.
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I don't think that dragons would be a unified "species" in classic kitchen-sink fantasy. In Dungeon Fantasy terms, there would be:
* Remember that being magical doesn't change being an animal in this genre! The acid spider, flesh-eating ape, foul bat, frost snake, and triger are all dire animals, despite having impossible anatomy and weird powers. In many cases, all magical powers do is add the word "dire" in front or justify a made-up name like "gryphon." The unusual trait that changes something from animal to not-animal is sapience, not magic as such. † The proper origin of dragons in Western mythology, actually, and what I'd recommend for the huge, treasure-hording, people-eating monsters of fantasy. ‡ The usual "good" version of the classic dragon, found mainly in Chinese and Mesoamerican myth, but also in kitchen-sink fantasy that insists that the demonic kind have a nice-guy counterpart.
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05-22-2013, 03:38 PM | #18 |
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Mostly because dragon-blooded aren't descended from demonic or divine dragons, but are animals "uplifted" by dragons. The dragons chose to work in their image, but it's pretty clear from the description that dragon-blooded are to dragons as humans are to humanoid gods.
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05-23-2013, 01:07 AM | #19 |
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Ars Magica similarly has dragon-kinds from the various supernatural Realms: Infernal Dragons, Faerie Dragons and Magical Dragons. I'm not sure if they have Divine Dragons too, but it wouldn't surprise me much.
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