Boxing - Liver/Kidney Punch

[archypetro]

How exactly would people here model this kind of attack? I've done boxing a while and a good hit to the liver (and the spleen if hit with any real force) will put someone down. In the case of a strong hit, it will rupture and split the organ causing internal damage. This isn't necessarily fatal, but is definitely enough to end a fight.

How exactly could this thing be modeled?

I'd say "Targeted Attack/Vitals - Boxing punch" but it says targeted attacks
can only work with impaling/piercing attacks.

Now, I assume that it can just be assumed that 'damage' reflects this type of injury (eg 6pts of crushing damage to the torso == major wound and can potentially knock peoeple down/out (assuming they have average st/hp)

But what if you actually want to do a punch that actually splits someone's liver or spleen?

[LemmingLord]

Maybe accept it as a part of the groin mechanic?

[lexington]

Originally Posted by archypetro

How exactly would people here model this kind of attack? I've done boxing a while and a good hit to the liver (and the spleen if hit with any real force) will put someone down. In the case of a strong hit, it will rupture and split the organ causing internal damage. This isn't necessarily fatal, but is definitely enough to end a fight.

How exactly could this thing be modeled?

I'd say "Targeted Attack/Vitals - Boxing punch" but it says targeted attacks
can only work with impaling/piercing attacks.

Now, I assume that it can just be assumed that 'damage' reflects this type of injury (eg 6pts of crushing damage to the torso == major wound and can potentially knock peoeple down/out (assuming they have average st/hp)

Don't increase wounding and force a knockdown roll. Martial Arts has more details.

Originally Posted by archypetro

But what if you actually want to do a punch that actually splits someone's liver or spleen?

Actually splitting the liver or spleen sounds like pressure secrets to me.

[Landwalker]

Crushing attacks can target the vitals per Martial Arts p.137.

Crushing attacks can target the "vitals"—e.g. the solar plexus from the front or the kidneys from behind—at -3. Wounding modifier is only x1, but shock requires a HT roll for knockdown, at -5 for a major wound.

[trooper6]

Martial Arts, pg. 137.
You can make a crushing attack to vitals. Wounding Modifier is x1, but shock requires a HT roll for knockdown, at -5 if a major wound.

[Fred Brackin]

Originally Posted by trooper6

Martial Arts, pg. 137.
You can make a crushing attack to vitals. Wounding Modifier is x1, but shock requires a HT roll for knockdown, at -5 if a major wound.

....and triple damage is possible on a good roll on the Critical Hit Table. It would take a very strong and skilled boxer to force a death check but enough injury to make staying in the hospital for a couple of weeks a good idea is easier.