07-26-2018, 10:24 PM | #431 | |
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IIRC it's to deal with smugglers throwing their illicit cargo overboard and claiming that they 'don't own it now'.
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07-26-2018, 10:26 PM | #432 |
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I don't remember any active version of this. Even being bondbroker for prisoners of war would be useful.
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07-26-2018, 11:01 PM | #433 | |
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07-27-2018, 08:27 AM | #434 | |
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I don't think you're going to see any more active form than this, and I suspect it was intended to be a lot more active than past statements have implied. The problem is that you want most of your population to be married, and if your ambassador is married to someone loyal to you, the "Women are immune" benefit goes away. So you have to marry them to someone on the other side, and if you do that, it may as well be as high up the chain as you can get. Foreign marriages were absolutely about diplomacy.
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07-27-2018, 09:13 AM | #435 | |
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"Immunity of women" is a real political consideration, for in tribal conflict that gives them the ability to cross no mans land. The benefit of the immunity of women in exogamous matches is not that she won't be attacked: all diplomats are immune in that sense. It is that she will also not be expected to fight for her family. That is in an exogamous match, if there is a feud a matrilocal male really does have a conflict of interest. A patrilocal female is on the contrary potentially serving mutual interest. It is making a bug into a feature essentially. The point I was making was that endogamy was a way to keep down the risk of conflicting loyalty. Exogamy could be used to harness it but seems mysteriously to have been neglected. Whareas the more abstract usages, of gaining theoretical blood ties and property claims were eagerly sought but may have been less useful then they seemed.
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07-27-2018, 09:16 AM | #436 |
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Here is one. The King is REQUIRED to marry polygamously. Of these one third must be noble, one third influential commoners. The rest are some mixture of diplomatic marriages abroad and his own private preference.
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07-27-2018, 09:25 AM | #437 | |
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That won't cause drama at ALL. Is he required to marry in sets of three? Or is it just kind of an order "Your next wife must either be a aristocrat or rich commoner". Who gets to inherit? I'd personally drop the "and his own private preference". Those are called mistresses, and they're not wives. Don't short out one of the categories. The king, or course, can try to fit them into a category and marry them. The most notable affairs fit into those categories anyways. Who inherits?
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07-27-2018, 11:02 AM | #438 | |
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Done correctly it puts a potentially very influential voice in a king’s ear. ...and among lesser houses it still gives them a back channel of communication even if the houses are feuding openly. |
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07-27-2018, 12:37 PM | #439 | |
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If there are several wives there is no reason to make a legal distinction between the personal and political. It was done anyway which is why we have concubinage. Be that as it may, this system allows the King to marry for preference and make no distinction with the others. As soon as he has reasonably accounted for the other duties.
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07-27-2018, 12:46 PM | #440 | |
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Inheritance is an interesting problem. On the other hand it can be a feature. Perhaps Parliament can elect out of all those potential heirs making it more likely to get a competent ruler then primogeniture. The main problem is giving the spares enough of a stake to avoid rebellion. Historically expansionism was one way to find stakes for ambitious nobles and princes but that assumes military superiority. On the other hand if it is not forbidden to be in trade, a prince can be an industrialist or whatever.
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