03-13-2019, 11:07 AM | #11 |
Join Date: Aug 2004
|
Re: GURPS Steampunk : Iron
We've got Dungeon Fantasy, Action, Monster Hunters, and After the End; I could see interesting possibilities for a Steampunk veneer for any of them, though Dungeon Fantasy would be more of a “clockpunk”.
|
03-13-2019, 02:07 PM | #12 | |||||
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Lawrence, KS
|
Re: GURPS Steampunk : Iron
Quote:
Quote:
I think there arguably is another side, if you want to go there. Economists of the 19th century, inspired by physics and astronomy, talked about discovering the "laws of motion" of the economy. In this world, Maxwell worked on that instead of electromagnetism, and also, it may be possible for predictive social science to work better than it does in the real world. So governments have some ability to anticipate social trends and plan ahead for future needs. Socialism still has problems, but it works better than it did in the real world. Quote:
What would be more restricted is access to confidential government records kept on computers! Quote:
Quote:
__________________
Bill Stoddard I don't think we're in Oz any more. |
|||||
03-13-2019, 02:39 PM | #13 |
Join Date: Dec 2017
|
Re: GURPS Steampunk : Iron
Thanks for responding! I should have been more specific with my France/Russia question. Was there a revolution in Russia after the Fashoda War? Is it the Czar’s Empire or the People’s Republic?
|
03-13-2019, 03:03 PM | #14 |
Join Date: Dec 2007
|
Re: GURPS Steampunk : Iron
I wouldn't expect a successful revolution in Russia after the Fashoda War. The French clearly took most of the beating there. Russia didn't even give up Finland and Britain was infinitely better positioned to make France hurt.
|
03-13-2019, 08:07 PM | #15 |
Join Date: Mar 2013
|
Re: GURPS Steampunk : Iron
AtF and DF already go together pretty well to an extent, some sort of social or civilization collapse is a good explanation for why there a dungeons scattered all over the place full of loot, and steampunk is probably the sort of tech society is likely to be able to produce post-collapse. And the dungeons can contain Ultra-Tech loot to boot.
|
03-13-2019, 08:52 PM | #16 |
Join Date: Dec 2007
|
Re: GURPS Steampunk : Iron
Not necessarily. I've seen a couple of versions of Dungeon Fantasy worlds where the dwarves had steampunk technology. Not to mention most of Lindsay Buroker's oeuvre which are filled with dragons, dirigibles and railroad trains.
|
03-13-2019, 10:30 PM | #17 |
Join Date: Dec 2017
|
Re: GURPS Steampunk : Iron
I submit that all of these have been done, in some form or another. Pyramid : Travels And Tribulations has the article 'The Department", which is a combination of Steampunk and Action. Pyramid : Monster Hunters has "Pulp Hunters!" which is an adaptation of Monster Hunters to TL 6 (close enough). GURPS Horror has "Blood In The Craters", which is essentially a Steampunk After The End setting. Finally, Pyramid : Alternate Dungeons adapts the Dying Mars setting from GURPS Mars, which is pretty Steampunky, to Dungeon Fantasy.
|
03-13-2019, 11:56 PM | #18 |
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Lawrence, KS
|
Re: GURPS Steampunk : Iron
The Dying Mars setting also struck me as pretty DF-like. High Martians are elves, Canal Martians are hobbits/halflings, Cave Martians are dwarves, Sand Martians are orcs, and the other breed, the one that rides around in the deserts, are men.
__________________
Bill Stoddard I don't think we're in Oz any more. |
03-14-2019, 04:51 PM | #19 |
Join Date: Dec 2012
|
Re: GURPS Steampunk : Iron
Steampunk DF could work as an AtE scenario: the Return of Magic caused modern technology to fail (I don't think I have AtE, but I would be surprised if there isn't something similar), but the survivors noticed that steam power and mechanics still work...
__________________
Warning, I have the Distractible and Imaginative quirks in real life. "The more corrupt a government, the more it legislates." -- Tacitus Five Earths, All in a Row. Updated 12/17/2022: Apocrypha: Bridges out of Time, Part I has been posted. |
03-14-2019, 05:49 PM | #20 |
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Lawrence, KS
|
Re: GURPS Steampunk : Iron
Actually there are three choices; Russia could also have gone over to a parliamentary republic or monarchy. But my assumption was that Russia was still under the Tsars. Parliamentary republics are not seen as the Wave of the Future in Iron, even less than they were in the real twentieth century; the centralized administrative state controlled by a technocratic elite is the big trend. And while Russia has some of that, notably in St. Petersburg, which prides itself on being a European city, it hasn't really taken in the country as a whole. Not having its armies torn apart during the Great War has delayed the crisis of confidence that let the Bolsheviks move in with a program of aggressive modernizatiion.
__________________
Bill Stoddard I don't think we're in Oz any more. |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|