12-29-2006, 10:29 PM | #21 |
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Ah, I was looking for language talent to be listed as an example talent under "Talents" but it is not. It is listed as its own advantage. I see. I think that would make sense to add to the template. I am also looking at regeneration and I think that the slow regeneration might work. Rapid healing could be bought by humans, and I don't want a fast healing human to be as good as an elf - so this keeps the elves a cut above humanity. Perhaps regular regeneration would be available to select individual elves who do things like heal from knife wounds over night - a very select few. I think this would come with a zero point feature that normally wounds do not scar and so forth, to keep them looking fresh. No regrowth though. Nothing leads me to believe elves can regrow lost limbs.
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Nice Topic and great Thread.
Thanks QM
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But i agree. its, in almost any game involving tolkien world, a special effect. They are unkillable, but since they don't return to play. Otoh, see glorfindel ... At first, it was 2 people with an unfortunate name collision, but it seems there is some fragment of note by tolkien that seems to mean that he intended to have them being the same elf, reembodied and back in ME for some reason ... Quote:
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And i think the council of elrond is proof enough that if elrond, erestor, glorfindel and the other old and wise elves cannot identify at a glance the most potent magic item left in ME, they don't have mage sight ... So, if no spellcasting and no mage-sight, why magery ? Quote:
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My understanding, and I don't have the texts in front of me to verify so I may be mistaken, is that Tolkien intended to differentiate between physical signs of the passage of time and physical degeneration. An elf's hair might turn from gold to silver; his face might become lined; his hands might become calloused with his labours; but he would still remain healthy. He would not become afflicted with things like arthritis or osteoperosis or Alzheimer's.
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This website suggests Círdan may be over 10,000 years old at the end of the war of the ring, in GURPS terms that means Elves probably have Unaging (Perhaps with a 0-point feature “Grows old after a really, amazingly, massively long time”), simply because the alternate is going to be 8+ levels of Extended Lifespan [16+] which would cost more than Unaging [15].
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So, they are unaging, but with a small limitation/special effect. Pure unaging, you don't change, by the book. See, for example, methos in highlander. 5000+ years, look like a young man. we can argue this for long, as we seems to have 2 different, both valid, interpretation in each case. You say physical dying in ME is death, with afterlife in Valinor. I say physical dying in ME is body death, spirit free. You say unaging is no aging roll, noxious physical effect I say unaging is no change due to the passage of time, full stop. 2 (well 4) point of view, both valid, i guess... to quote Ambassador kosh, 'Understanding is a 3 edged sword. your side, my side, and kromm word.' Quote:
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