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Old 04-02-2014, 05:37 AM   #31
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Which ones?
I did not keep a list. Nor do I feel like searching through several months of news magazines and acedemic journal articles to find out. The example I remember put the dictator's responce down as hysterical huffing and puffing which still had a point. Cell phones allow Africans to communicate with Africans in ways that local dictators can't fully control.
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Sorry to side track, but if you call them bourgeois revolutions it does make some sense. Nationalism, identity, codified laws of trade and order. BTW the Dutch Revolution was in 1572-1648. The printing press does represent a social revolution in production, from beginning to end, mining, smelting, paper, inks etc it's a huge operation to make a printing press. What does it do? Replaces all the scribes, mass produces information... why? The unification of information, dissemination and control.
America never had a Bourgeois, because we never had a resident King or aristocracy. In point of fact, any realistic analysis of English society would suggest that the term Bourgeois reflects a continental cultural pattern that never really existed in England. The term "nobility of the sandal" is meaningless in England, but it covers a social reality typical of much of Europe. Marx was a genius, but his historical vision was far to narrow. Luckily further generations of historians used Marx's insights to go further.

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By the way Smurf the Eighty Year's War and the Patriot's Revolution were different wars fought in different centuries. I'll add urls later.
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America never had a Bourgeois, because we never had a resident King or aristocracy.
King, no; aristocracy, yes.
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King, no; aristocracy, yes.
Do you mean New Yorks patroons or simply the local oligarchs that fought all democratic tendencies in the early republic. In neither case were they an Aristocratic order with birthright privileges. They had power, and an undemocratic form of power too, but unlike most European nations, the power never had true legitimacy under law.
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Do you mean New Yorks patroons or simply the local oligarchs that fought all democratic tendencies in the early republic. In neither case were they an Aristocratic order with birthright privileges. They had power, and an undemocratic form of power too, but unlike most European nations, the power never had true legitimacy under law.
I mean America had authentic landed gentry in residence during the colonial period, patroons included. Few were left after the war but their class and social stratum did not immediately evaporate, so there was a base of aristos from which the Burgeoisie would emerge. Washington represents this as a man of both hereditary and married wealth and status who proceeded to capitalize on disruptive new technologies like crop rotation and commercial real estate.
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