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Old 09-01-2012, 05:35 PM   #1
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Where is this adressed, if anywhere?
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Old 09-01-2012, 05:38 PM   #2
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Where is this adressed, if anywhere?
B p 379 Hurting Yourself
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:58 PM   #3
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Ah, thanks!

According to that, striking DR with DR 3+ may injure you. An exception is if the target's DR has the Tough Skin limitation. Any ideas on why an exception is made for Tough Skin, but not flexible DR in general?
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Old 09-01-2012, 10:59 PM   #4
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According to that, striking DR with DR 3+ may injure you. An exception is if the target's DR has the Tough Skin limitation. Any ideas on why an exception is made for Tough Skin, but not flexible DR in general?
Because punching a tough guy shouldn't break your hand but punching mail should?
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Old 09-02-2012, 01:14 AM   #5
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Because punching a tough guy shouldn't break your hand but punching mail should?
In reality, it actually does. Punching in someone’s jaw, skull, or even ribs can break your hand or your wrist. And such “accidents” are quite common…

Having said that, GURPS has got some critical failures which gives such a result.
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Old 09-02-2012, 01:15 AM   #6
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In reality, it actually does. Punching in someone’s jaw, skull, or even ribs can break your hand or your wrist. And such “accidents” are quite common…
Martial Arts has a Harsh Realism rule for this, and really it is a Harsh Realism sort of thing, fictional fighters rarely hurt themselves punching people.
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Old 09-02-2012, 01:27 AM   #7
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Martial Arts has a Harsh Realism rule for this, and really it is a Harsh Realism sort of thing, fictional fighters rarely hurt themselves punching people.
Yes, you're perfectly right.

Furthermore, in fictions, the toughness of tough people is often due to their amazing musculature… Shark, in the James Bond movies or the big bald guy in Indiana Jones, Raiders of the lost ark are some examples of that.
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Old 09-02-2012, 03:25 AM   #8
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Ah, thanks!

According to that, striking DR with DR 3+ may injure you. An exception is if the target's DR has the Tough Skin limitation. Any ideas on why an exception is made for Tough Skin, but not flexible DR in general?
I'd always assumed Hurting Yourself applied to hitting rigid armour; but to assume is ass+u+me.
Looking at the armour table from Low-tech, however, the only DR3* (vs crushing) armour I can find is Heavy Mail which didn't exist in Basic. Even Layered Cloth is rigid but, before reading this Thread, I wouldn't have applied the Hurting Yourself rule for hitting a quilt.
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