I Wonder How This Gets Expressed In _CW_

43Supporter · 11-17-2013, 04:46 PM

http://bangshift.com/blog/carnage-vi...tch-fence.html

During a Corvette Challenge race, many moons ago, one car lost a wheel; a following car hit the wheel, and "Reynolds Ramp"-ed into the tire fencing.

ckosacranoid · 11-17-2013, 10:18 PM

wow that is wild, old but wild.

LokRobster · 11-18-2013, 09:34 AM

Model by hitting an obstacle [the tire/wheel] and horribly failing your control roll?

Seems like a version of the 'vault' result on the table. They seem to be going really slow, though - less than 60mph would be my guess.

Neat video!

sum1els · 11-18-2013, 12:11 PM

New Uncle Al device? Explosive wheel hubs, like explosive 5th wheel pin... =]

Actually, I've always thought simple dropped weapons like this could be very effective; 3-4 steel jacks (like the kid's game with the rubber ball) the size of basketballs or beachballs would be relatively light and would really mess up your underbody, nevermind getting jammed under there slowing you down.

Magesmiley · 11-18-2013, 01:36 PM

Yeah, hitting an obstacle followed by an epic crash table failure.

Weaponizing it...

I toyed with a low budget notion around this at one point. Somewhere there is a reference to an obstacle taking up 1 space (I can't recall if the weight was listed though). I threw together a pickup with a passenger and 10 spaces of obstacles (old wheels), with the idea of having the passenger toss them out the back of the pickup bed during the combat.

43Supporter · 11-18-2013, 06:14 PM

The real problem here is: Tire-rubber doesn't care about anything except "can I get grip on this surface; and if so, how much?". If the 'Vette had hit, say, a similar-size block of metal, it would have been damaged, but likely would not have launched, as the metal-on-metal wouldn't have allowed for traction. However, that tire was hot (from racing), so it was going to grip whatever it touched; making matters worse was hitting it while it was in position to roll rather than be pushed aside.

The saving grace is: The car hit the tire fence, not the cement barrier; going roof-first into concrete, no bueno.

LokRobster · 11-18-2013, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinR

Note also that the rotational inertia of the loose tire would tend to lift the bumper and drive the car over the tire.

That's what really makes this video freaky! It ain't natural!!!

43Supporter · 11-19-2013, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinR

Note also that the rotational inertia of the loose tire would tend to lift the bumper and drive the car over the tire.

That's what I was trying to say -- the loose wheel treated the car as "just another surface to rotate on".

jeff_wilson · 11-23-2013, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LokRobster

That's what really makes this video freaky! It ain't natural!!!

It looks like the natural effect of rolling to me; I had the similar thing happen to me on one of two occasions when rear wheels came off my pickup . The wheel housings kept the wheels close to the body, and when the next part of the vehicle encountered the tire, it went up and over. (The other time, the wheel lodged up in top of the wheel well and the slope was angled badly for enough traction to lift the vehicle up and over. )

nidan71 · 11-23-2013, 09:21 PM

One other thing to consider, for real world vs CW world, that even race cars that are tuned for speed are likely to carry more armor than a normal real world car to deal with sideswipe collisions and gunfire.

These are basically empty shells of cars that are frame, engine, tires, driver and nothing else. I'd wager a 4000-6000 lb car would have squashed the loose tire under the bumper by sheer weight alone and not allowed a flip.

Drive offensively,

Curt

11-17-2013, 04:46 PM	#1
43Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007	I Wonder How This Gets Expressed In _CW_ http://bangshift.com/blog/carnage-vi...tch-fence.html During a Corvette Challenge race, many moons ago, one car lost a wheel; a following car hit the wheel, and "Reynolds Ramp"-ed into the tire fencing. __________________ "Dale who?" 79er The Jeremy Clarkson Debate Course: 1) I'm Right. 2) You're Wrong. 3) The End.

11-17-2013, 10:18 PM	#2
ckosacranoid Join Date: Feb 2011	Re: I Wonder How This Gets Expressed In _CW_ wow that is wild, old but wild.

11-18-2013, 09:34 AM	#3
LokRobster Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Republic of Texas; FOS	Re: I Wonder How This Gets Expressed In _CW_ Model by hitting an obstacle [the tire/wheel] and horribly failing your control roll? Seems like a version of the 'vault' result on the table. They seem to be going really slow, though - less than 60mph would be my guess. Neat video! __________________ Our decades-old & rarely updated CarWars blog & Hotwheel conversion tutorial: North Texas Autoduel Association

11-18-2013, 12:11 PM	#4
sum1els Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bellevue, WA	Re: I Wonder How This Gets Expressed In _CW_ New Uncle Al device? Explosive wheel hubs, like explosive 5th wheel pin... =] Actually, I've always thought simple dropped weapons like this could be very effective; 3-4 steel jacks (like the kid's game with the rubber ball) the size of basketballs or beachballs would be relatively light and would really mess up your underbody, nevermind getting jammed under there slowing you down.

11-18-2013, 01:36 PM	#5
Magesmiley Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Snohomish, WA	Re: I Wonder How This Gets Expressed In _CW_ Yeah, hitting an obstacle followed by an epic crash table failure. Weaponizing it... I toyed with a low budget notion around this at one point. Somewhere there is a reference to an obstacle taking up 1 space (I can't recall if the weight was listed though). I threw together a pickup with a passenger and 10 spaces of obstacles (old wheels), with the idea of having the passenger toss them out the back of the pickup bed during the combat. __________________ Dynamax Designs, Designing quality since 2035. Watch your handling and remember to Drive Offensively!

11-18-2013, 06:14 PM	#6
43Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007	Re: I Wonder How This Gets Expressed In _CW_ The real problem here is: Tire-rubber doesn't care about anything except "can I get grip on this surface; and if so, how much?". If the 'Vette had hit, say, a similar-size block of metal, it would have been damaged, but likely would not have launched, as the metal-on-metal wouldn't have allowed for traction. However, that tire was hot (from racing), so it was going to grip whatever it touched; making matters worse was hitting it while it was in position to roll rather than be pushed aside. The saving grace is: The car hit the tire fence, not the cement barrier; going roof-first into concrete, no bueno. __________________ "Dale who?" 79er The Jeremy Clarkson Debate Course: 1) I'm Right. 2) You're Wrong. 3) The End.

11-23-2013, 09:21 PM	#10
nidan71 Join Date: Sep 2009	Re: I Wonder How This Gets Expressed In _CW_ One other thing to consider, for real world vs CW world, that even race cars that are tuned for speed are likely to carry more armor than a normal real world car to deal with sideswipe collisions and gunfire. These are basically empty shells of cars that are frame, engine, tires, driver and nothing else. I'd wager a 4000-6000 lb car would have squashed the loose tire under the bumper by sheer weight alone and not allowed a flip. Drive offensively, Curt