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Of course it then goes on to contradict itself with all that stuff about fair trials and it being OK to steal at great need but not murder, even though a lot of places have harsher laws against stealing than against murdering the peasants.... I think the problem is Honesty got written with a modern American bias and never revised to a generic form. It can't quite decide which of two different disadvantages it is - Compulsion (obey any laws that apply to you) and Code of Honor (good citizenship of a liberal state). I think these are about -15* and -5 flat points respectively. A spy could not have the first (just the [intent] to spy is a crime most places), the second would be at worst slightly inconvenient, constraining you from using the more intrusive tactics against targets who might possibly be innocents.
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12-11-2009, 07:39 PM | #12 |
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Re: Soldierly Honesty (and spies)
This question can be boiled down to much greater clarity: What does an Honest character do when laws conflict?
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12-11-2009, 07:49 PM | #13 |
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12-11-2009, 09:34 PM | #14 | ||
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I would expect an Honest character to consider laws that conflict with his home laws as illegitimate, barbaric, etc. He would probably default to his own laws. Just as the character doesn't "go wild" in lawless areas, I don't think he's going to do essentially the same thing just because a country's laws tell him to. I could be mistaken - GURPS Disadvantages in general seem to be rather extreme versions of their real-life counterparts.
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12-11-2009, 09:44 PM | #15 |
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Usually. But in some cases, he may simply find the foreign legal code to be better (perhaps more in accord with his other mental disads) and switch allegiances. After which of course he has a new set of "home laws"
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12-12-2009, 12:01 AM | #16 | |
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Hey guys, just thought I should point this out. Infinite Worlds page 180 has this to say about honesty.
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12-12-2009, 12:02 AM | #17 |
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12-12-2009, 05:34 AM | #18 |
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Hmmmm. Just Hmmmm. And now I have to wonder whether or not that is in addition to local laws or not.
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12-12-2009, 07:48 AM | #19 |
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12-12-2009, 07:59 AM | #20 | |
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UNLESS it was necessary for survival as is listed for "stealing food" and so forth - but as soon as the honest spy delivered the critical information, he would turn himself in to the authorities of the foreign nation, exceptin the likely lethal punishment.
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