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Old 04-17-2018, 07:59 PM   #1
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If your average strength 10 5'10" human male was to suddenly grown to 140 meters tall how strong would be be assuming he maintains strength proportional to his weight?
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Old 04-17-2018, 08:11 PM   #2
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However strong tou want him to be; we’re ignoring physics from the outset, and even with the results (he’s not collapsing under his own weight, overheating, or suffering from blood loss in the brain and pooling in the legs).
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Old 04-17-2018, 08:12 PM   #3
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That's 79x larger in each dimension, so ~490,000x human strength, or about ST 7,000.
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Old 04-17-2018, 09:16 PM   #4
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5'10" = 1.778 metres.
140/1.778 = 78.74016, cubed = 488,190 x human mass, therefore the same for strength.
So square root of 488,190 = 698.7059
x10 ST = ST 6,987.

More "realistic" ST is ST 787 (increase squared instead of cubed), followed by immediate catastrophic skeletal collapse and death.

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Old 04-17-2018, 09:37 PM   #5
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As per the Growth advantage (which I assume the char has or was afflicted with) in the Basic Set: 5 times final height in yards. Quick and dirty approximation of 1 yard equivalent to 1 meter is 140x5, or ST 700. YMMV depending on if you go for a more accurate meter<>yard conversion.
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Old 04-17-2018, 10:05 PM   #6
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even with the results (he’s not collapsing under his own weight
Isn't 4e ST supposed to be above and beyond that which you need to support yourself and minimally move? That is, you don't need to calculate a ST score necessary to give you those baseline abilities and buy that along with your SM. That's built in. And a ST of "10" is notionally just the force you can apply beyond those maintenance levels, not the total output of your muscles. So, you can't build a character that collapses under his own weight, unless you could go to ST -1.
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Isn't 4e ST supposed to be above and beyond that which you need to support yourself and minimally move? That is, you don't need to calculate a ST score necessary to give you those baseline abilities and buy that along with your SM. That's built in. And a ST of "10" is notionally just the force you can apply beyond those maintenance levels, not the total output of your muscles. So, you can't build a character that collapses under his own weight, unless you could go to ST -1.
That's exactly right. A tree, for example, probably has a fair number of HP, since it's homogenous; a tree that weighs 125 lbs. has 40 HP! But it has ST 0, because it has no ability to pick things up or shove them about.

What the OP is describing, though, is the logic not of a semirealistically scaled humanoid lifeform with BL proportional to limb and trunk cross-section, but the logic of a giant who can pick up objects on their own scale, giving the same visual impression as a human being with everything just that much bigger. Kind of like the enlarged Ant-Man in Civil War, for example.
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That's exactly right. A tree, for example, probably has a fair number of HP, since it's homogenous; a tree that weighs 125 lbs. has 40 HP! But it has ST 0, because it has no ability to pick things up or shove them about.

What the OP is describing, though, is the logic not of a semirealistically scaled humanoid lifeform with BL proportional to limb and trunk cross-section, but the logic of a giant who can pick up objects on their own scale, giving the same visual impression as a human being with everything just that much bigger. Kind of like the enlarged Ant-Man in Civil War, for example.
That would be correct.
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Old 04-20-2018, 08:56 AM   #9
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As per the Growth advantage (which I assume the char has or was afflicted with) in the Basic Set: 5 times final height in yards. Quick and dirty approximation of 1 yard equivalent to 1 meter is 140x5, or ST 700. YMMV depending on if you go for a more accurate meter<>yard conversion.
That is not proportional to weight as requested in the OP.
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