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Old 08-06-2011, 02:36 PM   #1
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Default Getting rid of a bomb...

Congratulations, your party has just slain a Balseraph of Fire. The only problem is that he had a bomb with a timer and that timer has just reached one minute counting down. Figure that the bomb is powerful enough to wreck everything inside your local bank branch without doing permanent structural damage.

What techniques could used to keep the bomb from harming people and/or to reduce/eliminate Disturbance?

Three come to mind right off the bat.
1) I think a Kyrio of Jean who had possessed the bomb would be able to stop the timer especially if the timer was electronic.
2) Corporeal Motion with enough essence, straight up.
3) Scabbard space anyone? (Not sure if time passes in Scabbard space. If it doesn't go someplace like Death Valley and take it back out, if it does, what would the explosion do?

Any more spring to mind?
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Old 08-06-2011, 02:41 PM   #2
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If you've got a Creationer around, Transubstantiation is another good one.
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Old 08-06-2011, 02:56 PM   #3
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Something similar actually happened in a campaign of mine, where a PC angel decided to pull out some Scabbarded C4 with a short timer in an attempt to blow up a Lust Tether. She did not know that one of the demons had Celestial Motion ... the bomb was teleported to an abandoned house used by local runaways, and had to be Transubstantiated fast by a Creationer on scene before it wreaked horrible damage.

"Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb." -- Batman, as played by Adam West.
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Old 08-06-2011, 03:17 PM   #4
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Something similar actually happened in a campaign of mine, where a PC angel decided to pull out some Scabbarded C4 with a short timer in an attempt to blow up a Lust Tether. She did not know that one of the demons had Celestial Motion ... the bomb was teleported to an abandoned house used by local runaways, and had to be Transubstantiated fast by a Creationer on scene before it wreaked horrible damage.

"Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb." -- Batman, as played by Adam West.
That was my first thought when he posted the question, yeah.
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Old 08-06-2011, 05:35 PM   #5
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Default Re: Getting rid of a bomb...

Pick the bomb up, then change Vessels. The bomb counts as something carried and vanishes into potentiality with the Vessel.

Just remember that, when you switch back to that Vessel, you're carrying a bomb that's about to go off.

However, this does give you time to assemble a bomb-disposal team...
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Old 08-06-2011, 08:10 PM   #6
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Pick the bomb up, then change Vessels. The bomb counts as something carried and vanishes into potentiality with the Vessel.

Just remember that, when you switch back to that Vessel, you're carrying a bomb that's about to go off.

However, this does give you time to assemble a bomb-disposal team...
This was my first reaction, but instead of "change vessels," I was thinking "go celestial." Once you're in celestial form, you can fly away to a safe distance (in the sky, underwater, whatever) and then go back into corporeal form. Granted, you're probably losing a vessel in the process, but I bet most Superiors would replace it for your selfless act.
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Old 08-06-2011, 09:14 PM   #7
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This was my first reaction, but instead of "change vessels," I was thinking "go celestial." Once you're in celestial form, you can fly away to a safe distance (in the sky, underwater, whatever) and then go back into corporeal form. Granted, you're probably losing a vessel in the process, but I bet most Superiors would replace it for your selfless act.
And if you're a Malakite, it's all in a day's work anyway.

Another possibility for a Destiny angel might be to pick it up and use the Serendipity attunement, taking you and it wherever in the Symphony you're needed most. Just as long as where you're needed most isn't right here, defusing a bomb, that is.
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Old 08-06-2011, 09:48 PM   #8
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Another possibility for a Destiny angel might be to pick it up and use the Serendipity attunement, taking you and it wherever in the Symphony you're needed most. Just as long as where you're needed most isn't right here, defusing a bomb, that is.
This made me laugh.

(Incidentally, someone actually used that attunement in the last game I ran, and it was REALLY hard to figure out where the heck to send her. If only she'd had a bomb, for which my answer is almost always going to be "underwater," "the middle of the desert," or "the moon.")
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Old 08-07-2011, 06:34 PM   #9
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Corporeal Shields. Since the shield acts as a two-way barrier to all physical damage, the explosion will only affect things within the shield if the bomb is within the shield at detonation time. Of course, this necessitates throwing away a Vessel, being in celestial form when you use the Song, or being hilariously prepared to just take the resulting damage (it's actually pretty trivial for a warrior angel to have enough hitpoints that the damage that brings it down would kill a human ten times over, so I'd say the Corporeal heavy being able to survive being pointblanked with an IED is actually reasonable).

As per the opening vignette of the Corporeal Players Guide, this trick works on a tactical nuke let alone a sensible bomb.
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Old 08-08-2011, 09:05 AM   #10
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If it's not doing structural damage, most angels could simply hug the bomb - a high level Vessel has more hits than a tank.

Haagentians also fight Fire, so the bomb could get Devoured.

Ofanites can leave at high speed, and still have time to drop the bomb.

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Dream - CelMachines, and fall asleep. The bomb is now a relic, and follows the angel into the Marches. You've got CD hours to find a Nightmare target.

Stone - hug it and be invulnerable due to Stone vessel/Malakite invulnerability.

Fire - an explosion is technically fire, a Vassal could slow the explosion to a smoulder.

Wind - 'Swipe' the bomb for later disposal.

Lightning - use Remote Control to tell the bomb not to go off.

Animals - run away. Take any guide dogs present with you.

Sword - Scabbard

Trade - ring the person who sold the bomb to the Belialite and get the code.

War - already knew about the bomb via Malakite of War, so used it to kill the Belialite, inflicting dissonance on him.

Actually, that's a good point - you've the cooling body of a Belialite, stuff the bomb into it. Something that can have up to 144 body hits should muffle the explosion.

Flowers - use Ofanite of Flowers to move the bomb to a cave/underground stream touched by a tap root.

Destiny - nothing caps Synchronicity, but using Library Card or Akashic Record would give you the disarm code.
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