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Old 03-10-2010, 10:18 PM   #31
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Default Re: [DF] Evil and Unholy, is there a difference?

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I'd let it be so for the intelligent undead. For those with Automaton or Reprogrammable Duty, there's no motivation, so there is no Evil intent.
Well, that's because they don't have moral agency, so their evil/good status reverts to the controller.
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Old 03-11-2010, 02:38 AM   #32
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In a certain worldview, death and paradise is seen as a good thing. There's a reason while the early church had to make suicide a mortal sin, and why cults throughout history have practiced mass suicide.
_Dracula_ was written by a Victorian for Victorians, who were blissfully unencumbered by such considerations.
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Old 03-11-2010, 10:34 AM   #33
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_Dracula_ was written by a Victorian for Victorians, who were blissfully unencumbered by such considerations.
I don't recall that in the novel there was any such divine curse, IIRC that's a feature of the most recent film version. It is not as though Dracula is a happy character, reveling in his cool powers and immortality though anyway. He's a tortured slave to his unnatural lusts and basically welcomes death at the end of the book.
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Old 03-11-2010, 10:40 AM   #34
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I don't recall that in the novel there was any such divine curse, IIRC that's a feature of the most recent film version. It is not as though Dracula is a happy character, reveling in his cool powers and immortality though anyway. He's a tortured slave to his unnatural lusts and basically welcomes death at the end of the book.
Uh-hunh. Stoker is careful to depict killing a vampire as not merely necessary to defend humanity, but a mercy for the human trapped inside an evil shell.
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