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Re: [High-Tech] Reflex Sight + Scope: "can be used, but not with magnifying scopes"
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To me it seems like the biggest thing that could be an argument in favour of non-stacking is if there's some fundamental difference between looking through a scope and seeing the 'real' dot vs. looking through a magnifier and seeing a reflex dot. But it's quite possible that I'm misunderstanding what other difference are involved. (I tried shooting with iron sights and practicing in 'dry' mode with a targeting LASER, but not with a real scope nor a real collimator.) Quote:
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05-10-2017, 07:05 AM | #22 | |
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Re: [High-Tech] Reflex Sight + Scope: "can be used, but not with magnifying scopes"
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Now, the other question is why you can use a targeting laser with a telecopic sight, as High-Tech claims. Frankly, I have no personal experience with these, as targeting lasers are verboten in Germany. On reflection, though, this may be a genuine error, as the advantage of a targeting laser is similar to a red dot; you do not need to look at the sights, only the target. However, you always need to look through a scope to get the Acc bonus. That probably couldn't mix in a way that allows stacking the advantages. Cheers HANS
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05-10-2017, 07:26 AM | #23 | |
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Re: [High-Tech] Reflex Sight + Scope: "can be used, but not with magnifying scopes"
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05-10-2017, 08:12 AM | #24 | ||
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When you're focusing to get Accuracy, you actually are looking at your weapon - either into the scope tube or holding the front sight of your weapon in sharp relief. This cuts down on awareness of *everything* else but where you're pointing it. It is more accurate (it had better be) but of a necessity it restricts your focus and perception.
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05-10-2017, 08:17 AM | #25 | |
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Re: [High-Tech] Reflex Sight + Scope: "can be used, but not with magnifying scopes"
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A laser dot on a chest is visceral for the audience. Unless there's dust in the air, it WON'T be visceral for the target unless they catch sight of the beam. With a rifle, especially a scoped one, the laser dot is actually not helpful in increasing Accuracy. The laser is straight, but the bullet arcs. There are dots and stuff on proper scopes that help you adjust for such that are going to be more precise than a laser, especially as the beam spreads and diffuses at range.
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05-10-2017, 12:31 PM | #26 |
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Re: [High-Tech] Reflex Sight + Scope: "can be used, but not with magnifying scopes"
I would note that there is a combination of a laser and a scope that makes sense, and is used in the real world (at least for vehicular weapons), and would legitimately give a bonus to aimed shots -- but it's not a laser sight. It's a laser rangefinder.
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05-11-2017, 08:31 AM | #27 |
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Re: [High-Tech] Reflex Sight + Scope: "can be used, but not with magnifying scopes"
Thanks to hans for some good answers.
So is the reflex sight (+1 Guns) only good for Sighted Shots? Or is it for Unsighted as well? And the magnifier (combined with the red dot) is only good for Aimed Shots?
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05-11-2017, 08:43 AM | #28 |
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Re: [High-Tech] Reflex Sight + Scope: "can be used, but not with magnifying scopes"
Seems like if they don't stack, a reflex sight with a x3 magnifier would be nearly pointless. You can choose between a general +1 to Guns skill or +1 to certain Guns skill rolls.
The only benefit I see is that the magnifier also gives you a low powered telescope, good for a bonus on vision rolls.
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05-11-2017, 08:54 AM | #29 | |
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And yah, you have to Aim to claim the bonus for any magnifying optic, as your focus shifts from target to scope.
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