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Old 11-16-2016, 10:26 AM   #71
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In which case super-crops is another way to increase population, and another road not taken... though that might require some deep historical divergences. You could probably get somewhere with an earlier columbian exchange.
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In which case super-crops is another way to increase population, and another road not taken... though that might require some deep historical divergences. You could probably get somewhere with an earlier columbian exchange.
You'd need radially better shipbuilding techniques to go hundreds of years earlier.
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You'd need radially better shipbuilding techniques to go hundreds of years earlier.
Or different geography. Its probably better to just start with a super crop or start the agricultural revolution earlier. Unless you're not on earth, in which case alternate geography is fine.
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You'd need radially better shipbuilding techniques to go hundreds of years earlier.
Does it need to be a high-odds trip? Because I wouldn't think that crossing the Atlantic would need to be more than just barely safe or reliable to have it happen once in history.
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Does it need to be a high-odds trip? Because I wouldn't think that crossing the Atlantic would need to be more than just barely safe or reliable to have it happen once in history.
For an Earth much like our own it probably needs to be a regular series of trips with some significant movement around in the New World. St Brendan and his curragh shouldn't be nearly enough unless he really did have a Divine Patron. Even Norse longships don't carry much cargo.

Longships to Vinland also seem to have missed maize and I believe you need to go farther south for potatoes. Unless betting on super-long shots you also need significant contact with the indigenous peoples to find out what kind of yields they get from some of their strange new crops.

I'd really want something as good as an early Renaissance caravel and preferably on the southern route on a fairly regular basis.
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