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Old 08-09-2009, 08:28 PM   #1
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Default Sink the Surcouf!

A PC has to sink (or at least heavily disable) this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...f-outlines.svg

using this:

http://www.p40warhawk.com/Models/Bui.../P40E_1_11.jpg

The P-40E is armed with 6x.50-cal MGs (with API ammo), a 500-lb bomb and two 100-lb bombs.

The Surcouf, with a Japanese crew (don't ask), is off Attu Island on June 3, 1942. Dutch Harbor has already been bombed by Japanese carrier planes so expects no long-range American aircraft to bother it, or for there to be any American ships in the area. The only known American plane in the area is an unarmed Grumman Goose, which doesn't bother the sub's captain. The Surcouf is travelling surfaces and with the AA guns unmanned.

The pilot's effective skills are Piloting-13 and Gunner (MG/bombs)-10.

What would you do?

(The PC got the plane from Atlanteans, who "borrowed" it for him from Fort Glenn. I would have gone with the current P-38 model, but I don't believe it was equipped to carry bombs)

Writeup of the Surcouf:

http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread...hlight=surcouf
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Old 08-10-2009, 05:14 AM   #2
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Default Re: Sink the Surcouf!

Not sure but as the P-40 could probably not carry torpedoes - how about a radio-guided missile like the Hs-293 or the BAT guided bomb? True, the Hs saw operational use more than a year later (and on the Axis side) and the BAT got delayed several times - but it sure would help penetrating the waterline? Then again, the design would call for an operator able to direct the bomb to the target, requiring a rather huge mechanism that might fit into the Grumman Goose...

Bah, thinking too complex again, I await better ideas.
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Old 08-10-2009, 06:59 AM   #3
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Not sure but as the P-40 could probably not carry torpedoes - how about a radio-guided missile like the Hs-293 or the BAT guided bomb?
Only standard iron bombs are available. The PC doesn't have Gunner (Torpedo) and American torpedoes of the time were terribly unreliable.

His chance of getting a bomb hit is quite low unless he comes in at incredibly low range. I'm not sure how much the sub would be affected by pumping a couple hundred .50-cal rounds into it (only DR 40).
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Old 08-10-2009, 09:24 AM   #4
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Rockets? I seem to recall RAF Typhoons used rockets against small surface craft...
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Old 08-10-2009, 09:46 AM   #5
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Rockets? I seem to recall RAF Typhoons used rockets against small surface craft...
I don't think the US was using aircraft launched rockets in mid-1942.

My impression of the responses so far is that no one thinks the P-40 can do more than annoy the Surcouf.

Perhaps I should have given the PC a PBY with a full 4,000-lb bombl oad instead ...

It's a pity the Weapon Blessing ritual is -1 per pound, otherwise the mages could really help the pilot by casting it on the bomb.
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Old 08-10-2009, 10:55 AM   #6
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1. Invent skip bombing early, a 500lb bomb hiting the side should either crack the welds/ pop enough rivits loose to sink or at least cripple the Surcrouf, DDs were sunk with 500lbers in this way, the 100lbs bombs should be able to cripple the steering gear/screws.

2. With the Surcrouf on the surface the .50 cal rounds should be able to damage the seals on the hatches enough to prevent her from diving, at least very deep.
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Old 08-10-2009, 12:01 PM   #7
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I don't think the US was using aircraft launched rockets in mid-1942.
Get some prototypes. Or get the Atlanteans to supply a weapon...
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Old 08-10-2009, 12:09 PM   #8
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Get some prototypes. Or get the Atlanteans to supply a weapon...
Two rules the Atlanteans are going by:

(1) We will not attack the Surcouf because it isn't threatening us.

(2) We will not give you any significantly advanced technology.

Technically, stealing the P-40 and munitions from a US air base doesn't violate either one.

A napalm bomb has some appeal, especially if the sub has been shot up by the six MGs, allowing holes for the burning napalm to flow into.
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Old 08-10-2009, 01:09 PM   #9
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Can they refit with cannon? Say, 20mm's robbed from a zero?
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Old 08-10-2009, 01:15 PM   #10
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I don't think the US was using aircraft launched rockets in mid-1942.

My impression of the responses so far is that no one thinks the P-40 can do more than annoy the Surcouf.

Perhaps I should have given the PC a PBY with a full 4,000-lb bombl oad instead ...

It's a pity the Weapon Blessing ritual is -1 per pound, otherwise the mages could really help the pilot by casting it on the bomb.

A Swordfish could. Why not a P-40?
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