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Re: High-Tech advanced body armor: DR 35, 5 vs crushing
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12-11-2015, 03:05 PM | #12 |
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Re: High-Tech advanced body armor: DR 35, 5 vs crushing
Well, a combination of flexibility and weight. As long as it doesn't stretch too much, the simple inertia of flexible armor will spread impacts and render them a lot less dangerous.
Absent materials that change properties depending on how fast they flex (shear-thickening fluids and the like), resistance to impact for flexible materials isn't going to change much for any given combination of weight and flexibility. |
12-11-2015, 03:32 PM | #13 | |
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_Never_ underestimate the effect of politics (both DC and intra-service kinds) on military procurement. Mavericks from outside the established military-industrial complex almost always run into trouble. There's virtually an entire genre of literature that's been written about the problem over long periods of time. The DR 35 is the same as those military sponsored items. The dR5 is the same as the best "standard" scale though not what you could get with the best metal in Low Tech. There was some talk about scales failing when hit and subsequent problems with multiple hits but trauma plates do that too. I can't see how the individual scales failing could be worse than the whole trauma plate shattering. The real and indisputable problem was the adhesive that held everything together failing in the Iraqi heat (I've heard 130F). Either a classical hidden "crit fail" in development problem in gaming terms or an example of the systematic underestimation of how bad real world military conditions can be. The latter has been quite common over the years.
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(Also, while Pinnacle Armor went out of business, the armor (at the NIJ III level, not the full military version) does appear to be in production and available.)
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12-12-2015, 04:25 AM | #16 |
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Re: High-Tech advanced body armor: DR 35, 5 vs crushing
Isn't its point that it is concealable as or under clothing? That sounds cool for an adventurer who is either undercover or stacks another armour on top, but not so much for the military or patrolling police officers.
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12-12-2015, 04:28 AM | #17 | |
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A typical modern insert plate is in reality something like the standalone plate I have: a 30cm*25cm class IV standalone plate weighting 3kg that is meant primarily for use in a non ballistic carrier vest. That coverage is considerably less than full, but does cover the center of torso and vitals from the front. Insert plates are usually about the same size but have lower protection values as standalone and are meant to be used with ballistic vests like the setup in HT to get a proper protection. |
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12-12-2015, 04:43 AM | #18 |
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Re: High-Tech advanced body armor: DR 35, 5 vs crushing
Without seeing results of more recent testing I'd probably just drop the DR to around 25 as suggested above and leave everything else the same.
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12-12-2015, 01:37 PM | #19 |
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Re: High-Tech advanced body armor: DR 35, 5 vs crushing
It was lighter per area covered than the system the Army was using, but that system is pretty heavy too. It's not lighter per area covered than other advanced armors.
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