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I think the structure and workings of the brain are perhaps a little bit better understood than you imagine:
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06-02-2018, 08:07 AM | #33 |
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If you include the phrases "deliberately, "consciously", "repeatably", "reliably" and "successfully to original intent" then yes, that's what I'm saying. I believe that all of your examples show the bias of counting the successes and ignoring the failures.
Just because hurricanes happen doesn't mean weather control is possible. It doesn't even mean that any one sapient agency was responsible for the hurricane's creation.
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You can't even tell if the successes came out the way they were designed to. Some of the successes really don't seem to have been "designed" at all. There are many cases where success quite obviously happened by accident or at least in a fashion that was totally unanticipated by the "designers"..
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Okay Fred rejects memetics. Meanwhile the rest of us are okay with them. So what new ideas in tech have come up since the THS setting came out that would give a revised setting a distinctive new flavor?
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And we are already witnessing some TL8 baby steps towards scientificising the understanding and sometimes direction of the spread of memes, with things like Google's and Facebooks algorithms, Target's predictions, ad companies checking MRIs to see which memes have what effects on a brain etc. But those are baby steps, which are two TLs behind THS' level, in a field where TL9 involves a paradigm-shifting discovery. And if you try to extrapolate future TLs beyond a paradigm-shift as a mere continuation of pre-shift TLs, you'll grossly underestimate the advancements. |
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This would be science though perhaps with a lower-case "s". Or at least something like science. Historically any sort of detailed plan is rare and ones that survived contact with reality are rarer.
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For the rest of your question I think you would need to have some sort of technological area where the Real World is ahead of the TS timeline or at least making large amounts of progress in an unanticipated direction. I regret to report that I know of no such area. I will avoid listing the areas where we are behind schedule for the TS timeline both because of length and the desire to avoid beign seen as solely negative. Suffice it to say that Transhuman Space is extremely optimistic about scientific and technological development and reaiity is rather disappointing in comparison.
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I thought it was the point to make THS the most optimistic setting 100 years in the future possible without getting silly. How closely SJG got with that is of course arguable as with all things opinion, but I assumed all levers set to 100% optimism was a setting goal and feature.
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