11-25-2015, 12:28 PM | #661 | |
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11-25-2015, 12:52 PM | #662 |
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You're overlooking other games. ICV2 reports 2015 at $880 million total hobby sales. RPGs were $25 million of that.
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11-25-2015, 01:45 PM | #663 | |
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Still, the overall point that you bring up is important to look at. Role playing games represent something on the order of two and a half or 3% of every dollar spent for this kind of entertainment. And not only is that a small fraction of total dollars, is a very low margin small fraction of total dollars. The opportunity costs of investing staff time in that couple percent for an even lower profit are, relatively speaking, quite high.
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11-25-2015, 02:18 PM | #664 | |
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For an even bigger eye-opening piece of data consider the Hasbro annual report for 2014. -- http://investor.hasbro.com/financials.cfm -- Games are listed as over $1 billion in revenue. That's over the ICV2 hobby number of $880 million. AND the ICV2 number includes Magic and D&D. So when we expand games out to include mass market then RPGs become an even smaller slice of the overall pie.
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11-25-2015, 05:25 PM | #665 |
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As one of the authors, I have to ask: what content was that? We wrote the outlines for the main book and the Companions at the same time, each with its own mission (basically, adventuring equipment in the main book, historical background, construction systems, and quotidian gear in the others), and while some things moved around the series as a whole as we realized that material initially written for one book was better suited to the mission of another, I don't remember substantial revisions moving stuff out of the main book. Indeed, IIRC, the main book grew by something like 16 pages during the initial writing.
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11-25-2015, 05:45 PM | #666 | |
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11-25-2015, 06:10 PM | #667 | |
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11-25-2015, 07:15 PM | #668 | |
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To those who complained about the page-oriented display of PDF files, that's totally understandable. BUT maintaining the "fixed" nature of a physical book is vital for at least one simple reason: page references. As was pointed out, there are no reasonable solutions (and, as a vanishingly limited use-case, nor are there likely to be) for reliable links between documents of varying publication date. And then there are licensed properties, for example, which sometimes exist ONLY as print versions, and would be particularly challenged if they couldn't rely on fixed references in the main rules. PDF is, like it or not, the best possible compromise for the modern era. Perhaps someday all GURPS texts will happily for any legitimate buyer assimilate themselves into one squirming, interlinked whole, like an intelligent version of the old numbered-section wargames rules. But if it ever even comes, that day is a long way out yet. For now, the answer lies in having a display machine and software powerful enough to magnify and slide pages quickly, and/or the willingness to use print-service bureaus in order to obtain your own hard-copy texts. I quite liked Kromm's examples about personal investment in hobbies; why shouldn't RPGs be similar? |
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11-25-2015, 11:15 PM | #669 | ||
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Anyway, I'm not saying "I'm right and others are wrong." I'm just putting my experiences on the table to illustrate the (possibly unusual and unrepresentative) standards that I bear in mind when I advise my superiors on decisions for the GURPS line.
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11-26-2015, 12:38 AM | #670 |
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What about selling Print on Demand titles through DriveThruRPG. They are obviously something of a competitor to Warehouse23, but they do offer a service which is in demand for many RPG enthusiasts. Not only would it mean GURPS titles will never be out of print, but it may also increase the exposure of GURPS, as DriveThruRPG gets a lot of gamer traffic. Or even Lulu, but that is not gamer-centric. A little while ago I spent 100's on printing all my 3rd Ed GURPS classic PDF's and it really pained me to think I was giving all this money to Lulu when it could have gone to SJG.
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