01-18-2018, 04:10 PM | #11 |
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Re: Damage bonus from Karate
Note 4 just says it receives the Karate damage bonus, not what that bonus is.
The Karate text in Basic actually says that it applies +1/+2 per die to "basic thrust damage" for Karate attacks, which actually strongly implies that it doesn't apply to swing attacks at all. However, I believe the intent is that Karate applies a damage bonus, and that you figure this bonus based on thrust damage (which is why it tells you to write it down) regardless of what other factors apply. I always just assumed it based it on thrust damage so that it was a slowly increasing value based on an existing system. As I say, I don't have a ruling any particular way. Finally, I'm seeing what Garion is: ST 18, DX 10, Karate-11, Bladed Hand Swing mode is doing 3d cut. (Just Basic and Martial Arts loaded.)
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01-18-2018, 04:12 PM | #12 |
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Re: Damage bonus from Karate
Note, also, that I am NOT a rules expert, by any means, and that I often miss various rulings and discussions on these things. That's why I almost always defer to Eric on these things, and why I tend to avoid rules-oriented discussions about GCA data files.
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01-18-2018, 04:52 PM | #13 | |
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Re: Damage bonus from Karate
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FWIW, I just did it again and with just those two gdfs loaded (b4.0.423), I am getting 3d-2/3d+1/3d+4 for Karate at DX-1/DX/DX+1 and ST 18. Why would we be getting different things? Last edited by sir_pudding; 01-18-2018 at 05:20 PM. |
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01-18-2018, 05:11 PM | #14 | ||
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Re: Damage bonus from Karate
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With Karate @ DX, damage bonus based on thrust dice, is +1. Damage becomes 3d-1. Karate @ DX+1, damage bonus becomes +2 per die, so +2, and damage becomes 3d. I'm seeing what I expect to see, unless I'm missing something. Quote:
Is it possible you've modified the files you're using? Could you paste in here for me the damage() field from the Full Edit Window for your Bladed Hand?
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01-18-2018, 05:15 PM | #15 | |
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Re: Damage bonus from Karate
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Did you change the file, or change it on a character that you were testing with and didn't resync?
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01-18-2018, 05:16 PM | #16 | ||
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Re: Damage bonus from Karate
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Although shouldn't that be 3d-2 cut +2 cr if it is supposed to be the punch damage bonus? Quote:
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01-18-2018, 05:23 PM | #17 | |
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Re: Damage bonus from Karate
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Basic Set says the bonus is "to basic thrust damage" and nothing about type of damage or swinging, so it's not adding damage, it's improving damage done, whatever type it may be. I don't think it does us any good to try dissecting what's said, it's likely counter to the intent to try and do so.
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01-18-2018, 05:27 PM | #18 |
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01-18-2018, 05:42 PM | #19 |
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01-18-2018, 06:15 PM | #20 |
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