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Old 03-31-2011, 05:43 PM   #1
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Default Permanent Duration Enhancement

This enhancement is +150% if there are "reasonable numbers" of ways to dispel the effect or +300% if there are no ways to dispell it. Who thinks that +250% is reasonable for no ways to dispel it but limited ways to suppress it?

(First, I'm the GM. Second, I'm thinking of magic items that are always magical except when suppressed by a powerful enough dispell magic or being in a low mana zone.)
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Old 03-31-2011, 06:06 PM   #2
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This enhancement is +150% if there are "reasonable numbers" of ways to dispel the effect or +300% if there are no ways to dispell it. Who thinks that +250% is reasonable for no ways to dispel it but limited ways to suppress it?

(First, I'm the GM. Second, I'm thinking of magic items that are always magical except when suppressed by a powerful enough dispell magic or being in a low mana zone.)
That sounds like it's just a normal property of magic items, not a limitation on the enchantment.
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Old 03-31-2011, 06:10 PM   #3
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This enhancement is +150% if there are "reasonable numbers" of ways to dispel the effect or +300% if there are no ways to dispell it. Who thinks that +250% is reasonable for no ways to dispel it but limited ways to suppress it?

(First, I'm the GM. Second, I'm thinking of magic items that are always magical except when suppressed by a powerful enough dispell magic or being in a low mana zone.)
If it has the magic power modifier, that's redundant.
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Old 03-31-2011, 06:16 PM   #4
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That sounds like it's just a normal property of magic items, not a limitation on the enchantment.
*facepalms* I forgot to say where I was planning to use it... this is for the Affliction that I'm working up as a way to do power based enchantment.

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If it has the magic power modifier, that's redundant.
I don't see how... this is to distinguish a permanently enchanted magic item from a general spell effect. Shouldn't there be a duration difference?
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Old 03-31-2011, 06:31 PM   #5
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*facepalms* I forgot to say where I was planning to use it... this is for the Affliction that I'm working up as a way to do power based enchantment.



I don't see how... this is to distinguish a permanently enchanted magic item from a general spell effect. Shouldn't there be a duration difference?
Duration difference from what? The Magic power modifier includes "won't work in no mana" and "can be suppressed by things like Neutralize Magic".

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Old 03-31-2011, 06:51 PM   #6
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In other words, Permanent is +300%, and Magic (can be suppressed by anti-magic/low mana/etc) is -X%, so Permanent but Suppressible is (300-X)%
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Old 03-31-2011, 07:02 PM   #7
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Duration difference from what? The Magic power modifier includes "won't work in mana" and "can be suppressed by things like Neutralize Magic".
OH! I get what you are saying. Yes... sorry, I had a dense moment reading your reply. :)

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In other words, Permanent is +300%, and Magic (can be suppressed by anti-magic/low mana/etc) is -X%, so Permanent but Suppressible is (300-X)%
And this is what made it clearest for me. Thanks. :)
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Old 03-31-2011, 10:58 PM   #8
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And you can find "X" in Thaumatology, where there's a disadvantage for intelligent swords that go dormant in no mana zones, so it becomes a Temporary Disadvantage limitation, applied to the Extended Duration enhancement. Don't remember the value offhand, sorry. -GEF
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Old 04-01-2011, 12:55 AM   #9
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And you can find "X" in Thaumatology, where there's a disadvantage for intelligent swords that go dormant in no mana zones, so it becomes a Temporary Disadvantage limitation, applied to the Extended Duration enhancement. Don't remember the value offhand, sorry. -GEF
You're thinking of No-Mana Shutdown, on p.119 of Thaumatology, except that it specifically states that items that merely lose their special abilities should use the Mana-Sensitive limitation instead.
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Old 04-01-2011, 06:07 AM   #10
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Yes, that's for magical people.
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