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Old 02-13-2022, 02:38 PM   #1
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Default Martial Arts: Combining Judo Throw technique and Wrestling

P. 75 of GURPS: Martial Arts, gives us "Judo Throw" as a technique defaulting to Judo and allowing the martial artist to make a Judo Throw off of a parry, or for simply having grappled your opponent.

P.51 of the same book provides "Skill Adaptation" which allows you to adopt a technique outside of the combat skills you possess, and have it default to a different skill.

Later, in the styles section, it showcases a number of martial styles which involve both the Judo and Wrestling skills.

For such styles, why not just make Wrestling the core skill and use skill adaptation to incorporate the Judo Throw technique into the Wrestling skill? Seems a much more efficient way of spending character points to be able to grapple, enjoy the ST benefits of the Wrestling skill, and still throw your opponent.
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Old 02-13-2022, 02:44 PM   #2
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Judo parries presumably.
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Old 02-13-2022, 03:00 PM   #3
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Default Re: Martial Arts: Combining Judo Throw technique and Wrestling

There are other techniques that you lose access to, such as Hand-Clap Parry, Sarcirifce Throw, Binding, and Evasion.

Nothing is stopping you from doing your own style your way...

If the GM went for it, you could even do "Skill Adaptation: Judo Techniques default to Wrestling [1]". I wouldn't allow it to go that far, but YMMV
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Old 02-13-2022, 03:13 PM   #4
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I suspect its difficult to find a real world style that has something like Judo throws without Judo parries.
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Old 02-14-2022, 09:20 PM   #5
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Judo parries presumably.
since there are 1-handed wrestlers who cna parry I always figured you could allow 1H parries via wrestling (or sumo, only other skill which uses 2H parries at baseline) at -4 to skill (-2 to parry) via B146's "You get -4 on tasks that are possible with one arm but that are usually executed with two"

This doesn't really line up with MA116's mere -2 for using 2H grappling moves with only 1H though, not the most consistent policy
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Old 02-14-2022, 10:15 PM   #6
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For such styles, why not just make Wrestling the core skill and use skill adaptation to incorporate the Judo Throw technique into the Wrestling skill? Seems a much more efficient way of spending character points to be able to grapple, enjoy the ST benefits of the Wrestling skill, and still throw your opponent.
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