GUAL to a Lv9 Munchkin

Udeliens · 11-19-2009, 09:00 AM

The question is... 'can i use a GUAL card on someone who's already lvl9?'

i.e. Some other player reached lv9 and is using nice itens, can i use then the card "GUAL: Senseless Act of Kindness" so he wont gain the level since hes already lv9, but will have to give his highest-bonus item to another player yet?

Or if i am lv9 and have 6 cards on hand, but don't want to do charity, can i use one GUAL card on me, i don't gain level but the card is discarded....

Andrew Hackard · 11-19-2009, 09:16 AM

You may not play a GUAL card on someone who has to kill a monster to level up.

Udeliens · 11-19-2009, 09:54 AM

Thank you very much... but other cards that would make you gain a level, like the "duck of many things" which includes gaining a level on the final, can't be used at all? By someone already at lv9 i mean...

breakfast2588 · 11-19-2009, 10:14 AM

No, you cannot win the game by any effects.

The only exceptions I know of to this are: Divine Intervention, High, Dark (Only when the player dies), the Orc's ability (can't remember what it's called) giving it an extra level when you beat a monster by more than 10, and the Epic Orc's Munchkin Munch ability.

AgentLex · 11-19-2009, 10:21 AM

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The only exceptions I know of to this are: Divine Intervention, High, Dark (Only when the player dies), the Orc's ability (can't remember what it's called) giving it an extra level when you beat a monster by more than 10, and the Epic Orc's Munchkin Munch ability.

In other words, there is no possible way to go up to the winning level except by killing a monster unless a card specifically states on it that you can use it to gain the winning level.

Udeliens · 11-19-2009, 10:48 AM

My question is not about the winning level guys, i know the rules for that...
What i meant is if a lvl9 munchkin can use the "duck of many things" and do all the things the card says, except for the "gain a level" part... OR because he's already lvl9, he won't be able to use that card, even if he wants the other benefits...

PK · 11-19-2009, 10:53 AM

Yes, he could use the Duck of Many Things card. The previous rulings here have been that a level 9 player may play a card with a GUAL effect, if there's another effect that he wants. (The best example: "Kill a Hireling: GUAL" played just to off someone else's hireling.)

Udeliens · 11-19-2009, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew Hackard

You may not play a GUAL card on someone who has to kill a monster to level up.

Playing Kill a Hireling isn't a GUAL card? So i think you couldn't play it if you are level 9 just, even if you just want to kill someone's hireling...

MunchkinMan · 11-19-2009, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rev. Pee Kitty

Yes, he could use the Duck of Many Things card. The previous rulings here have been that a level 9 player may play a card with a GUAL effect, if there's another effect that he wants. (The best example: "Kill a Hireling: GUAL" played just to off someone else's hireling.)

Much older rulings, of course. It's been stated on these forums, fairly recently, that the current ruling is that a player who must kill a Monster to gain a Level can not play a card that would give him a Level unless the card expressly states that it is an exception to the rule.

~~Solelron~~ · 11-19-2009, 01:23 PM

Unless of course you are playing with http://www.worldofmunchkin.com/pawns/ then all bets are off.

*prepares to be hammered by Andrew and MM* :)

11-19-2009, 09:00 AM	#1
Udeliens Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Brasil	GUAL to a Lv9 Munchkin The question is... 'can i use a GUAL card on someone who's already lvl9?' i.e. Some other player reached lv9 and is using nice itens, can i use then the card "GUAL: Senseless Act of Kindness" so he wont gain the level since hes already lv9, but will have to give his highest-bonus item to another player yet? Or if i am lv9 and have 6 cards on hand, but don't want to do charity, can i use one GUAL card on me, i don't gain level but the card is discarded.... __________________ Honestly. It’s the honest ones you want to watch out for, because you can never predict when they’re going to do something incredibly… stupid.

11-19-2009, 09:16 AM	#2
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11-19-2009, 09:54 AM	#3
Udeliens Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Brasil	Re: GUAL to a Lv9 Munchkin Thank you very much... but other cards that would make you gain a level, like the "duck of many things" which includes gaining a level on the final, can't be used at all? By someone already at lv9 i mean... __________________ Honestly. It’s the honest ones you want to watch out for, because you can never predict when they’re going to do something incredibly… stupid.

11-19-2009, 10:14 AM	#4
breakfast2588 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Michigan	Re: GUAL to a Lv9 Munchkin No, you cannot win the game by any effects. The only exceptions I know of to this are: Divine Intervention, High, Dark (Only when the player dies), the Orc's ability (can't remember what it's called) giving it an extra level when you beat a monster by more than 10, and the Epic Orc's Munchkin Munch ability. __________________ Buwahahaha! My Epic Bard Class, coupled with a Crusty Old Prospector Sidekick, fighting against a Mated Ancient 5-Treasure Monster, makes the Treasure Deck disappear like MAGIC!

11-19-2009, 10:48 AM	#6
Udeliens Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Brasil	Re: GUAL to a Lv9 Munchkin My question is not about the winning level guys, i know the rules for that... What i meant is if a lvl9 munchkin can use the "duck of many things" and do all the things the card says, except for the "gain a level" part... OR because he's already lvl9, he won't be able to use that card, even if he wants the other benefits... __________________ Honestly. It’s the honest ones you want to watch out for, because you can never predict when they’re going to do something incredibly… stupid.

11-19-2009, 10:53 AM	#7
PK Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dobbstown Sane Asylum	Re: GUAL to a Lv9 Munchkin Yes, he could use the Duck of Many Things card. The previous rulings here have been that a level 9 player may play a card with a GUAL effect, if there's another effect that he wants. (The best example: "Kill a Hireling: GUAL" played just to off someone else's hireling.) __________________ Reverend Pee Kitty of the Order Malkavian-Dobbsian (Twitter) (LJ) MyGURPS: My house rules and *GURPS* resources. #SJGamesLive: I answered questions about *GURPS After the End* and more! {Watch Video} - {Read Transcript}

11-19-2009, 01:23 PM	#10
~~Solelron~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2007	Re: GUAL to a Lv9 Munchkin Unless of course you are playing with http://www.worldofmunchkin.com/pawns/ then all bets are off. prepares to be hammered by Andrew and MM :)