02-19-2011, 11:05 AM | #31 |
Never Been Pretty
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Re: Overkill on a Mozambique drill
I'm with jacobmuller on this. You make the first HT roll to see if you stay conscious. After that you make another HT roll every turn you do something other than Do Nothing. The exception has nothing to do with the first HT roll.
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02-19-2011, 03:44 PM | #32 |
Wielder of Smart Pants
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Ventura CA
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Re: Overkill on a Mozambique drill
I'm fairly sure you are. The rule reads basically as "Make these rolls. Exception: Unless you Do Nothing."
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02-19-2011, 07:19 PM | #33 |
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Berkeley, CA
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Re: Overkill on a Mozambique drill
The problem is that the turn sequence looks like you should make the roll before choosing your action. Presumably that can be fixed by having the order be 'choose action, then check for consciousness; if you fail, your action does not occur'.
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02-20-2011, 12:30 AM | #34 |
Computer Scientist
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Dallas, Texas
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Re: Overkill on a Mozambique drill
One thing that many/most law enforcement are trained to do that rarely makes it into fiction is that they cuff or otherwise restrain a downed hostile person before seeing to their medical condition. It really stood out in training films and I was one as one of several first-year LE students who asked, "Why are they handcuffing the dead guy?" Answer: "You can't confirm he's dead, or even physically incapacitated until someone checks them physically, so you need to restrain them first just in case."
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02-20-2011, 12:33 AM | #35 | |
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Re: Overkill on a Mozambique drill
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Of course, we are a very pacifistic country. Even so, it's something to keep in mind. It's not always 'okay' to cuff people 'just in case'.
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02-20-2011, 02:01 AM | #36 | |
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Re: Overkill on a Mozambique drill
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Forum Quorum At present the vote stands at 1 for you Must perform the first HT check vs 1 for you can choose to Do Nothing and thereby avoid it until you feel the need to do something. PS I thought to check Mook's examplars but realised they aren't fully applicable - the victim has no choice but to attempt action - they're all check or die situations.
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02-20-2011, 02:17 AM | #37 | |
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Re: Overkill on a Mozambique drill
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02-20-2011, 02:40 AM | #38 |
Computer Scientist
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Dallas, Texas
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Re: Overkill on a Mozambique drill
Dude! Iceland has what, one murder a year? When does it come up?
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02-20-2011, 05:05 AM | #39 | |
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Austin, TX
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Re: Overkill on a Mozambique drill
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If you are at 0 HP or below, and you took on action OR made a defense roll on your last turn, then you must roll HT to avoid unconsciousness at the start of your turn. If you did not make a defense roll on your last turn AND Did Nothing, then you do not have to make a HT roll to avoid unconsciousness. |
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02-20-2011, 05:20 AM | #40 |
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Re: Overkill on a Mozambique drill
I like that interpretation - more dynamic and common sense, which GURPS tends to be, than a black/white do/don't.
Thank you. I was thinking along the lines of: if you were doing something when you got injured you need to roll; if you were doing nothing you only need to roll if you want to do something.
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