extra effort in combat as a skill

[muduri]

One more idea that's just started rolling around in my head. If I remember, there are Dungeon Fantasy advantages that allow say fighters to always Move And Attack. What if each of the Extra Effort in Combat techniques were a Will/Avg skill instead? Perhaps available only with TBAM?

I'd be willing to spend a point to bring my fighter's Heroic Charge or my cleric's Feverish Defense up from default - or eight points on the assassin's Mighty Blow. And conversely it might help the players guess which opponents would be using Extra Effort against them.

[Ulzgoroth]

...What are you actually proposing here? Extra Effort in Combat doesn't involve rolling anything, so it's not clear what you're proposing a technique would do.

You seem to be talking about the 'Run and Hit' power-up, which is based mainly on the Martial Arts 'Designing Cinematic Techniques' rules. It actually has nothing to do with Heroic Charge, technically.

[muduri]

Huh, you're right... why am I remembering Extra Effort in Combat as requiring a Will roll? Is that just a house rule enshrined so long that I forgot it was homebrew, or does it come up somewhere published as optional? Thanks for pointing that out.

[Kelly Pedersen]

Originally Posted by muduri

Huh, you're right... why am I remembering Extra Effort in Combat as requiring a Will roll?

You may be remembering the more general rules for Extra Effort to boost things like your basic stats, which do require a Will roll (see "Extra Effort", pp. B356-357). Note that those rules already have an option to substitute a skill roll for a straight-up Will roll - you just use Will as the default attribute instead of whatever it normally defaults to. So if you want to push your speed, you make a Will-based Running roll, or a Will-based Jumping roll to jump further, and so on.

[corwyn]

Originally Posted by muduri

One more idea that's just started rolling around in my head. If I remember, there are Dungeon Fantasy advantages that allow say fighters to always Move And Attack.

It does? Where would I find that? The only thing I've seen like that is in Martial Arts - a technique based on all the downsides of MaA and assigning a penalty to get rid of them.

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by corwyn

It does? Where would I find that? The only thing I've seen like that is in Martial Arts - a technique based on all the downsides of MaA and assigning a penalty to get rid of them.

It's the same thing, just bundled up as a power-up. In DF11, p12.