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01-21-2018, 04:01 PM | #12 | |
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01-21-2018, 04:07 PM | #13 |
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Well, I disagree completely with your position here, so now where are we? While innate bravery may not be directly tied to IQ, the ability to realize a situation is overwhelming and respond accordingly is somewhat cognitive, no matter what you say. More importantly, a Morale check is not the same thing as a Fear check. A Morale Check is a roll to determine whether or not a particular individual believes the fight he's engaging/about to engage in is worth the personal risk -- and many factors can make a difference in that decision (loyalty to friends, sheer numbers of opponents, belief that the cause is worth the sacrifice, desire for revenge, whatever). A Fear check, on the other hand is to gauge an instant, reflexive, reaction to something genuinely horrifying or terrifying. And IQ as just as logical to roll against for that purpose as anything else would be -- in fact, more so, because most fears originate in our minds anyway, whether consciously or subconsciously.
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01-21-2018, 04:16 PM | #14 | |
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01-21-2018, 04:35 PM | #15 |
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Re: Fear and Loathing In TFT
And, again, I disagree. The argument is neither that complicated nor a part of any rule. Simply stated, the rule would read to roll 3d6 against IQ under certain conditions -- as Mr. Jackson noted, the extremes (Cthulhu) or the transitory stuff. Not too complicated after all...
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01-21-2018, 07:58 PM | #16 |
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Re: Fear and Loathing In TFT
From a "use what's there" perspective, would it be crazy talk to treat fear as an attack, and then assess impairment by a die roll? So one might attack with fear with a 3d6 roll against a base level (say 8) for mundane "boo!" stuff. If the attack succeeds, the effect is maybe 1d6, treated as a penalty?
The only reason I deal with this in this way is I'm a big fan of not inventing new mechanics. If there's no "saving throw" type thing already, and the usual method of testing for an effect is a success roll followed by an effect roll (in combat, to-hit then damage), then using that and trying to figure out what the hit roll, the skill being rolled against, and the damage roll would be are the real trick. Depending on how strong "talents" usually are, one could make the base fear check a certain number and then use talents to boost it to represent particularly fearless folks (this is what GURPS does with both Fearlessness and Unfazeable). Effect rolls could be independent (if you're scared, roll 1d6 for shock), or based on margin of success (which will tend to cluster due to bell curve, but then you can get the rare case where you basically just go pants-wettingly terrified, which might be fun for amusement value).
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01-21-2018, 10:10 PM | #17 | |
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01-23-2018, 03:34 PM | #18 | |
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ST is obviously more than what you can lift. It's everything physical except manual dexterity, hand-eye coordination and agility - strength, health, willpower to some degree, pain tolerance and even attractiveness maybe. It stands to reason that someone who is physically superior to most of his species would tend to be more courageous and confident. So a 3/ST roll isn't unreasonable. Or, you could give the character a 3/IQ or 4/ST roll if you think ST is less of an analogue for courage. |
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01-23-2018, 03:52 PM | #19 |
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Re: Fear and Loathing In TFT
Unless you are Hunter S. Thompson, I don't think that fear and loathing are especially connected, and I don't think that a system that tells you what your character dislikes is especially desirable anyway.
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01-23-2018, 09:05 PM | #20 |
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Re: Fear and Loathing In TFT
Different strokes for different folks. Still, a way to game fear/horror/disgust is not a bad idea, since players tend to forget that the reality of some hideous monster can be quite a bit worse than looking at a little piece of cardboard on a paper map.
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