10-04-2014, 10:17 AM | #1 | |
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A detailed example of good low tech surgery
There seems to be a general interest in the potential for the application of advanced knowledge in low tech conditions. I ran across this and thought it would be of interest.
This is from: THE DEVELOPMENT OF 'SCIENTIFIC' MEDICINE IN THE AFRICAN KINGDOM OF BUNYORO-KITARA by JNP Davies Quote:
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10-06-2014, 10:26 AM | #2 |
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Re: A detailed example of good low tech surgery
Does he mention whether or not the mother survived?
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10-06-2014, 01:10 PM | #3 | |
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10-06-2014, 01:49 PM | #4 |
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I would expect that if sepsis had not set in by that point, it would have required extreme ill luck for it to do so thereafter ... seems to be a pretty successful operation for the time: IIRC it would be into the C20 before a woman could remain fertile after a Caesar and within the last 20-30 years that technique allowed a natural delivery to follow a Caesar. I would guess most European surgeons couldn't be sure of their patient in 1879 and, as you say, would have probably been less effective prior to that.
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10-06-2014, 04:32 PM | #5 |
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Re: A detailed example of good low tech surgery
My mother had a Caesarian in 1949 followed by vaginal deliveries in 1951, 1953, 1954, 1957, and 1964. It wasn't even considered especially remarkable.
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10-06-2014, 04:35 PM | #6 |
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Re: A detailed example of good low tech surgery
I'm not sure if the procedure described actually qualifies as TL 4 or less. I realize that Uganda probably wasn't TL5 in 1879 overall, but this procedure seems to have most of the features of late TL5 (or even early TL6, though without anesthesia) surgery...
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No insult intended. Everyone's memory changes over time. Heck, it could have been dangerous and her doctors downplayed the danger erroneously.
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10-06-2014, 09:06 PM | #8 |
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That story made me cross my legs and I'm a guy.
Being nearly immune to opiates, I've found that one can not over emphasize the horrors of recovering from surgery without modern pain management.
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10-06-2014, 10:00 PM | #9 |
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I think it's highly unlikely that she misremembered the dates of Brett's and siblings births, or that the first was a C-section. These things tend to be the sort of details people retain. Presumably the dates were celebrated annually...
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Her recollection tallied with my father's, and also with my and my sibling's birth certificates and the little tags that were tied to us in the hospital nurseries. There is a whole bunch of circumstantial detail tied up in which obstetrician delivered which baby in which hospital and why, which I won't bore you with. Suffice it to say: no. My eldest brother was born in 1949, by Caesarian, in Sydney. My older sister was born in 1951 by instrumental delivery, in Sydney. The rest of us were born in 1953, 1954, 1957, and 1964, in Kempsey, by vaginal delivery in induced labour twenty-one days short of term.
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