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08-13-2022, 12:07 AM   #211
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Re: (IC) Lost in Dreams (Julian)

Quote:
 Originally Posted by ericthered Its very easy to find the guard. He takes the token and hurries after the other guard immediately, throwing Julian a small
Wow, so generous.
Quote:
 Originally Posted by ericthered Julian heads back to his sleeping area slowly.
Well, I'm beat. I'll examine the rubbing I made and go to sleep.

Quote:
 Originally Posted by ericthered Yeah, you're quite a bit off. Its a whole number of G\$, and its higher than \$1. Preindustrial and all that (though frankly this place is pretty wealthy for preindustrial).
OK, looping back around to this. Ignoring the discount Julian got, 1L = 1 Meal. So, assuming no income on holidays, that's 175L income, 140L for food (eating better every other day), and clear 35L per 40 day month.

Per B265, 1 meal costs 1% income for breakfast or lunch, 2% for dinner. Given that eating at the slightly less filling place needs four meals, I think it's reasonable to say 1 Meal = 1% CoL.

Going off of the Typical Monthly Pay and other information from B517, I can calculate how many extra meals each TL & Status/Wealth combination can afford. To better compare the values from the first paragraph, incomes are increased by a third (to reflect the increased income over a 40 day month). From these figures, I can calculate the relation between G\$ and L based on food price and income.

As the value of \$G and L are integers when basing on food, and the value calculated by income is fairly close, I assume that the difference between the two values is roughly corresponds to the probability of the TL/Status pair. Refer to the table below.

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```TL	Status	Food	Income	Net	M Earn	M Net
Bumundo	Values	140.00	175.00	35.00	175.00	35.00	\$G/LF	\$G/LW	Difference
1	-2	140.00	173.33	33.33	173.33	33.33	1.00	0.99	0.01
2	-2	140.00	180.00	40.00	180.00	40.00	1.00	1.03	0.03
4	-1	420.00	533.33	113.33	177.78	37.78	3.00	3.05	0.05
3	-2	140.00	186.67	46.67	186.67	46.67	1.00	1.07	0.07
4	0	840.00	1066.67	226.67	177.78	37.78	6.00	6.10	0.10
4	1	1680.00	2133.33	453.33	177.78	37.78	12.00	12.19	0.19
4	-2	140.00	213.33	73.33	213.33	73.33	1.00	1.22	0.22
3	-1	420.00	466.67	46.67	155.56	15.56	3.00	2.67	0.33
2	-1	420.00	450.00	30.00	150.00	10.00	3.00	2.57	0.43
4	2	4200.00	5333.33	1133.33	177.78	37.78	30.00	30.48	0.48
1	-1	420.00	433.33	13.33	144.44	4.44	3.00	2.48	0.52
3	0	840.00	933.33	93.33	155.56	15.56	6.00	5.33	0.67
5	-2	140.00	293.33	153.33	293.33	153.33	1.00	1.68	0.68
2	0	840.00	900.00	60.00	150.00	10.00	6.00	5.14	0.86
1	0	840.00	866.67	26.67	144.44	4.44	6.00	4.95	1.05
5	-1	420.00	733.33	313.33	244.44	104.44	3.00	4.19	1.19
3	1	1680.00	1866.67	186.67	155.56	15.56	12.00	10.67	1.33
6	-2	140.00	426.67	286.67	426.67	286.67	1.00	2.44	1.44
2	1	1680.00	1800.00	120.00	150.00	10.00	12.00	10.29	1.71
4	3	16800.00	21333.33	4533.33	177.78	37.78	120.00	121.90	1.90
1	1	1680.00	1733.33	53.33	144.44	4.44	12.00	9.90	2.10
5	0	840.00	1466.67	626.67	244.44	104.44	6.00	8.38	2.38
6	-1	420.00	1066.67	646.67	355.56	215.56	3.00	6.10	3.10
3	2	4200.00	4666.67	466.67	155.56	15.56	30.00	26.67	3.33
2	2	4200.00	4500.00	300.00	150.00	10.00	30.00	25.71	4.29
5	1	1680.00	2933.33	1253.33	244.44	104.44	12.00	16.76	4.76
1	2	4200.00	4333.33	133.33	144.44	4.44	30.00	24.76	5.24
6	0	840.00	2133.33	1293.33	355.56	215.56	6.00	12.19	6.19
5	2	4200.00	7333.33	3133.33	244.44	104.44	30.00	41.90	11.90
6	1	1680.00	4266.67	2586.67	355.56	215.56	12.00	24.38	12.38
3	3	16800.00	18666.67	1866.67	155.56	15.56	120.00	106.67	13.33
2	3	16800.00	18000.00	1200.00	150.00	10.00	120.00	102.86	17.14
1	3	16800.00	17333.33	533.33	144.44	4.44	120.00	99.05	20.95
6	2	4200.00	10666.67	6466.67	355.56	215.56	30.00	60.95	30.95
5	3	16800.00	29333.33	12533.33	244.44	104.44	120.00	167.62	47.62
6	3	16800.00	42666.67	25866.67	355.56	215.56	120.00	243.81	123.81```
That's a lot of information. Basically, once you take out the Status -2 ones (as you said 1L > G\$1), the most likely status TL pairs are TL4 Status -1 thru 1, TL3 Status -1, and TL 2 Status -1. Depending on Julian's Status, the value of 1L is somewhere between G\$3 and G\$12 (I'm thinking closer to G\$3).

Last edited by TGLS; 08-15-2022 at 12:19 PM.

 08-22-2022, 11:17 AM #212 ericthered Hero of Democracy     Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: far from the ocean Re: (IC) Lost in Dreams (Julian) Nice math. 1L = 4G\$. The numbers are based on -1 status TL4. The economy of Bumundo is slightly off because everything has to be imported but digging up Vasic is a really solid source of cash. ******************** The token has characters on it Julian doesn't recognize, as well as some basic symbols. It looks like a seal of sorts. Of note is a wooden box attached to two cliffs that meet at the top, a "glowing" stone, and four spears in a bundle. And a striped frog. Julian has only barely gotten to sleep when he is woken up... by the tall skinny man. "What are you?" the man asks. He seems to be armed only with a long knife at his belt. __________________ Be helpful, not pedantic Worlds Beyond Earth -- my blog Check out the PbP forum! If you don't see a game you'd like, ask me about making one!
08-22-2022, 04:25 PM   #213
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Re: (IC) Lost in Dreams (Julian)

Quote:
 Originally Posted by ericthered Nice math. 1L = 4G\$. The numbers are based on -1 status TL4. The economy of Bumundo is slightly off because everything has to be imported but digging up Vasic is a really solid source of cash.
Figures about right with how flexible Vasic stone magic is. Wondering why someone would go all the way up to mine; untapped reserves?

Quote:
 Originally Posted by ericthered The token has characters on it Julian doesn't recognize, as well as some basic symbols. It looks like a seal of sorts. Of note is a wooden box attached to two cliffs that meet at the top, a "glowing" stone, and four spears in a bundle. And a striped frog.
Well let's see here:
-> Cliffs - The Cliffs
-> Box - The Market
-> Glowing Stone - Vasic
-> Spears - Spears? Maybe the bundle of four is for the guard?
-> Frog - ??? I don't think I've seen anything up here that like that. I remember someone mentioned something about dropping a frog through the waterfall in a barrel. Maybe the Frog represents Tiskara?

Quote:
 Originally Posted by ericthered Julian has only barely gotten to sleep when he is woken up... by the tall skinny man.
And here I wanted to make a joke about feeling like I was a sleep for a week! :)
Given every other time Julian's been woken suddenly, something terrible's happened, I think this might call for a Panic Attack roll:
Quote:
 [44] 22-08-22 23:14:22 CEST Panic Attack on 6 or Less 3d6 <= 6 4 + 2 + 6 = 12 ... failure
Quote:
 Originally Posted by ericthered "What are you?" the man asks. He seems to be armed only with a long knife at his belt.
I try to back off slightly. "Tired, afraid, lost. A basket pusher. I, I won't scream if you don't pull your knife."

08-23-2022, 09:02 AM   #214
ericthered
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Re: (IC) Lost in Dreams (Julian)

[QUOTE=TGLS;2448180]Figures about right with how flexible Vasic stone magic is. Wondering why someone would go all the way up to mine; untapped reserves?
[quote]
Because the floor of riask itself is water-logged and mining there requires digging through massive layers of silt and either setting up pumps or mining underwater. The ceiling has Vasic close to the surface.

Quote:
 I try to back off slightly. "Tired, afraid, lost. A basket pusher. I, I won't scream if you don't pull your knife."
"Don't make a fuss and I won't slit your throat. Come with us. If you don't know what you are, we'll find out"

The man grabs Julian and starts pulling him towards the main tunnel.
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08-23-2022, 12:27 PM   #215
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Re: (IC) Lost in Dreams (Julian)

Quote:
 Originally Posted by ericthered Because the floor of riask itself is water-logged and mining there requires digging through massive layers of silt and either setting up pumps or mining underwater. The ceiling has Vasic close to the surface.
I guess how they bootstrapped up here is a long story. And probably really costly.

Quote:
 Originally Posted by ericthered "Don't make a fuss and I won't slit your throat. Come with us. If you don't know what you are, we'll find out"
Us? How many people are here?
Quote:
 [50] 22-08-23 19:13:18 CEST Perception 3d6 <= 13 2 + 5 + 3 = 10 ... success
Quote:
 Originally Posted by ericthered The man grabs Julian and starts pulling him towards the main tunnel.
Can Julian attempt to dodge? I suppose he's still lying down? If he is/was lying down/sitting, he won't try anything, and:
"I'll go wherever you want but could I please get up first? It'd be easier than dragging me around."
Quote:
 [52] 22-08-23 21:10:44 CEST Diplomacy 3d6 <= 12 3 + 4 + 4 = 11 ... success
I feel bad that everyone's going to be wondering where I disappeared to. And about leaving my diary behind.

If he is/was standing/kneeling/etc:
I'll try to dodge his grab:
Quote:
 [51] 22-08-23 19:23:48 CEST Dodge 3d6 <= 9 4 + 4 + 3 = 11 ... failure
Well I guess the distinction's irrelevant

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08-24-2022, 08:35 AM   #216
ericthered
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Re: (IC) Lost in Dreams (Julian)

Quote:
 Originally Posted by TGLS I guess how they bootstrapped up here is a long story. And probably really costly.
pretty much.

Quote:
 Us? How many people are here?
Looking around, its three of them.

Quote:
 "I'll go wherever you want but could I please get up first? It'd be easier than dragging me around." I feel bad that everyone's going to be wondering where I disappeared to. And about leaving my diary behind.
The man doesn't loosen his grip, but lets Julian get his feet... and possibly grab the diary if he's quick about it. Julian's initial dodge failed... the man doesn't seem to begrudge him that. Yet.

"You will come with us. Where are you from?" The question seems less about getting to know Julian and more serious, as though its somehow critical to the man's life.
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08-24-2022, 09:44 AM   #217
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Re: (IC) Lost in Dreams (Julian)

Quote:
 Originally Posted by ericthered Looking around, its three of them.
The three of them from the tunnel or the thin man and two others?

Quote:
 Originally Posted by ericthered The man doesn't loosen his grip, but lets Julian get his feet... and possibly grab the diary if he's quick about it.
It's against my better judgement, but Julian wouldn't give it up easily so:
I'll try to grab it.
Quote:
 [53] 22-08-24 16:34:33 CEST DX 3d6 <= 12 3 + 6 + 1 = 10 ... success
I tuck it under my arm. I don't want to drop it.

Quote:
 Originally Posted by ericthered "You will come with us. Where are you from?" The question seems less about getting to know Julian and more serious, as though its somehow critical to the man's life.
I'm getting a sinking feeling that wasn't the best thing to say.

I'm guessing the next question is, 'How did you get here?'
"I don't know anything about that."

If Julian gets an opportunity to ask a question (seems unlikely)
"How did you know to look for me? Noticed when I followed you? Guard give me up?"

08-25-2022, 09:33 AM   #218
ericthered
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Re: (IC) Lost in Dreams (Julian)

Quote:
 Originally Posted by TGLS The three of them from the tunnel or the thin man and two others?
correct.

Quote:
 It's against my better judgement, but Julian wouldn't give it up easily so: I'll try to grab it. I tuck it under my arm. I don't want to drop it.
Its signature gear. rest easy.

Quote:
 "Not Riask, if that's what you're worried about." I'm getting a sinking feeling that wasn't the best thing to say. I'm guessing the next question is, 'How did you get here?' "I don't know anything about that."
"Not Riask isn't a place. What's the name of the place you're from? Where in the Kiraskan?"

Quote:
 If Julian gets an opportunity to ask a question (seems unlikely) "How did you know to look for me? Noticed when I followed you? Guard give me up?"
He doesn't get that chance... yet.
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08-25-2022, 10:41 AM   #219
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Re: (IC) Lost in Dreams (Julian)

Quote:
 Originally Posted by ericthered "Not Riask isn't a place. What's the name of the place you're from?"
"Um... I don't what it's called in Riask [the language, if there's a different word]."

I start listing off a few places:
"Rattan? British West Indies? The Caribbean? The Americas? Earth?"
Quote:
 Originally Posted by ericthered "Where in the Kiraskan?"
"I don't really understand where the Kiraskan is. Far away from that I guess?"

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08-26-2022, 09:59 AM   #220
ericthered
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Re: (IC) Lost in Dreams (Julian)

Quote:
 Originally Posted by TGLS "Um... I don't what it's called in Riask [the language, if there's a different word]."
Riask is the language name as well as the place, yes. Or at least people respond to it being used that way.

Quote:
 I start listing off a few places: "Rattan? British West Indies? The Caribbean? The Americas? Earth?"
The man listens to these, and demands that Julian repeats all of them three times.

Quote:
 "I don't really understand where the Kiraskan is. Far away from that I guess?"
That claim really gets his goat. "The Kiraskan. All of Not Riask! I suppose I've got what I'm going to get. We'll figure it out."

Quote:
 "How did you know to look for me? Noticed when I followed you? Guard give me up?"
"You show up like a flame in the dark when traveling. Did you think people couldn't see you?"
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