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Old 01-10-2019, 03:41 PM   #11
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There is also a history of court-ordered dissolution of companies to make its subsidiaries independent - most famously, see Bell Telephone being ordered to split up.
"It was settled in 1982 by the means of a*consent decree*between AT&T and the Department of Justice..."
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Old 01-10-2019, 04:01 PM   #12
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One question:

Do you have GURPS Boardroom and Curia stats for this corp for us to take a look at?


(If not, why is this in GURPS rather than Roleplaying In General?)
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Old 01-10-2019, 04:05 PM   #13
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One question:

Do you have GURPS Boardroom and Curia stats for this corp for us to take a look at?


(If not, why is this in GURPS rather than Roleplaying In General?)
Yes, those are the stats. I just dont have a standarized sheet for boardroom and curia.
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Old 01-10-2019, 04:18 PM   #14
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Ah, missed the link in the original post....

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The 2.4 million employees all have an Involuntary Duty?
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Ah, missed the link in the original post....

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The 2.4 million employees all have an Involuntary Duty?
Ah, chattel slavery on an incomprensibly vast scale. You just don't see it like you used to.
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They forgot to pay the fee (?).
Fee? I don't know what sort of fee you're thinking of. You can find the case at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Alcoa. It's generally considered one of the major cases in U.S. antitrust law.
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Old 01-10-2019, 04:30 PM   #17
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Ah, chattel slavery on an incomprensibly vast scale. You just don't see it like you used to.
Granted, it could just be owing your parents' and grandparents' debts to the company store... which you're not paid enough in company store scrip to pay off... which has been illegal in the US for at least a hundred years....

But that was the big thing that jumped out at me perusing the small PDF s/he provided.
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1. Comment on the implausibility of the organization itself.
"the revolutionary patents of Genesis cover levels from 10 to 11."

2 or 3 TLs ahead is implausible at least without ancillary explanation.
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Any company that advanced would be nationalized by the US government to prevent any competitor from getting the technology. The unnecessary parts would be spun off into separate companies, but every TL9+ aspect would be nationalized and kept at above top secret clearance. Anyone involved in the chattel slavery would likely also end up going to prison for the rest of their lives.

The way that a mega corporation could evolve would be to create a new technology, ruthlessly exploit it, and bribe/hire everyone who could limit their growth. As long as it does not start assassinating people, keeps its employees happy, and proves to its home nation that it more valuable in one piece than many pieces, it will likely survive. When it stops doing those three things, that is when people will start trying to destroy it.
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This is a company that I have been using for some time and I just redid it with some changes.

Assumptions.

1. This organization exists in 2019, born of the merger of four leading companies on November 14, 2003.
2. The original companies had common objectives but they developed their main activities in very different sectors, with the three most important sectors being industrials, healthcare and technology.
3. Today Genesis is basically a large conglomerate corporation which brings together the best of companies such as AT & T, Apple, Samsung, Toyota, General Motors, Samsung, McKesson, United Health, Berkshire Hathaway, ExxonMobil, Royal Dutch Shell, Glencore, AmerisourceBergen, Cardinal Health, Walmart and Amazon.
4. The value of each level of rank has been determined in accordance with the rules of the Social Engineering books.
5. The Patron value has been calculated by doubling it since it has access to cutting-edge technologies.

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1. Comment on the implausibility of the organization itself.
2. Give me ideas of how any company that exists today could destroy Genesis.
3. Tell me what the Genesis relationship could be with the national governments, considering that, originally, the company obtained international financing worth hundreds of billions in credit lines.
4. Taking into account that the majority shareholders are the founders of the original companies, bringing together a total of twenty-five percent of the shares among the four, how could they recover total shareholder control?
5. Tell me what it would take to destroy the entire organization, not in terms of applying the mechanics of disadvantages, but in narrative terms.

Link to the pdf.

I don't understand why the stats show two different Wealth levels.

I don't think plausibility is a meaningful question given you are talking about a company that has TL10-11 technology. But there are other issues.

You mentioned that these ultra-tech innovations are patented which would mean they are recorded in a public register, making for an incompatibility with Genesis hoping to retain secrecy and exclusive possession of advanced TL. Even though the patents would protect their legal possession of the technology the knowledge itself would alter TL8 sociiety beyond recognition and would be appropriated by non-compliant regimes.

Also, eventually, patent protection expires. How old are some of the older patents already? For them to have gotten up to this level of wealth would suggest some of the products have been commercialized for some time so if the patents correspond approximately to the initial commercialization, some of them must be getting close to expiry.

It doesn't make sense that the company would pay $624,000 per year to even the lowliest employees. At that rate its annual salary costs are about 1/4 of the Startup value.

You say the four leaders are 'majority' shareholders. Who then are the minority shareholders, what proportion do they hold, and why are they willing to tolerate the astronomical salaries?

How, when and from whom did the company obtain credit lines in the hundreds of billions of dollars? What were the pre-merger valuations of the four preceding companies that merged together?

Your write up says the four leaders are controlling shareholders, but one of your questions asks how they can establish 'total shareholder control'. Do you mean how can they buy out the minority shareholders? If that's what you mean, they could use their voting control to carry out a compulsory buy out, but the arrangement would have to provide fair value to the minority interests or a court would disallow it.

As for destroying the company, I think the White Queen is the point of vulnerability.
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