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Old 06-01-2012, 04:49 PM   #1
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Default Who says armor cannot withstand nukes?

In various threads I have seen the claim that armor that can withstand a tactical nuke is unrealistic. I would like to call your attention to the following:

"In the 15.2 Kiloton REDWING-INCA nuclear test on June 26, 1956, 30 cm diameter carbon-coated steel balls were placed 9 meters from the bomb by researcher Lew Allen, and were undamaged with only a loss of 0.1 mm of surface graphite."

Source: Declassified data on effects of nuclear weapons and effective countermeasures against them, http://glasstone.blogspot.com/2006/0...ear-tests.html

Now consider the following:

Vaporization temperature of Carbon: 3915°K, 3642°C, 6588°F

Vaporization temperature of Tungsten: 5828°K, 5555°C, 10031°F

Vaporization temperature of Tungsten Carbide: 6273°K, 6000°C, 10832°F

Source: Wikipedia

So who says armor cannot withstand nukes?
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Old 06-01-2012, 05:06 PM   #2
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Default Re: Who says armor cannot withstand nukes?

How far from the blast site where those balls found?

Bouncing Ogres hopping around the battlefield from all the nukes going off sounds...interesting.
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Old 06-01-2012, 05:07 PM   #3
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Default Re: Who says armor cannot withstand nukes?

It's not the armor plating that you are generally worried about.
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Old 06-01-2012, 05:23 PM   #4
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It's not the armor plating that you are generally worried about.
EM pulse! Now your Ogre is a pretty scorched GIANT lawn ornament.
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Old 06-01-2012, 05:30 PM   #5
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How far from the blast site where those balls found?

Bouncing Ogres hopping around the battlefield from all the nukes going off sounds...interesting.
Your question makes me think of a new activity: Nuclear Bowling. :)
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Old 06-01-2012, 05:41 PM   #6
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Your question makes me think of a new activity: Nuclear Bowling. :)
Very Dr. Strangelove.
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Old 06-01-2012, 05:49 PM   #7
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Did someone say tanks in nuclear tests?
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Old 06-01-2012, 06:23 PM   #8
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Did someone say tanks in nuclear tests?
Interesting article, though I'm unsure how to take the implicit comparison to Hugh Hefner....
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Old 06-01-2012, 07:26 PM   #9
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I did not know that story!

But the conclusion that the crew is the most vulnerable part of the tank on an atomic battlefield is exactly in line with Ogre canon.
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Old 06-01-2012, 09:03 PM   #10
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How far from the blast site where those balls found?

Bouncing Ogres hopping around the battlefield from all the nukes going off sounds...interesting.
The video of the nukes hitting WWII-era tanks show them being flipped over or pushed back a couple of dozen feet, but no bouncing across the battlefield. Now if you set off a nuke UNDER an Ogre...
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