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I don't feel in the least bit offended by anything that Bill and SP have written. |
11-02-2010, 12:49 AM | #532 | |
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I pointed out why I consider THS to be a 'miracle tech' setting. I think it gets into metaphysics, which is pretty interesting, but not what I'd classify as 'hard sci fi.' I don't think that there's anything inherently 'better' about really rigorous, narrow, even conservative hard sci fi. In fact, most of what I like to read isn't like that. I also like some stuff that gets into the 'social sciences', involves metaphysical speculations,etc. I liked Snow Crash, after all, and Foundation too. Last edited by combatmedic; 11-02-2010 at 12:52 AM. |
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b) If they do not have the same rights, that alone makes them different and they are no longer identical. And if you accept different rights, why not also have different rights for Vicky-Upload and Vicky-Original ? For example, like treating Vicky-Original a dead and Vicky-Upload as a new person ? Quote:
The existing legal system would probably commit him to a mental health institution and try to heal (= edit) him to make him harmless. We most certainly have legal ways to deal with this. |
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11-02-2010, 01:02 AM | #534 |
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AFAICT THS does not do so. Some people in the setting do so. The setting does not tell us whether a ghost is the original person, are something like a SAI. This question is under discussion, both here and in THS.
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11-02-2010, 01:18 AM | #535 |
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Metaphysics, right. Not what I'd call hard sci fi material, but interesting stuff for sci fi of the more popular, open sort.
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*Checks back the history of his country* Yes, it is certainly possible for a legal system to contain ways of allowing the government to try 'healing' people to make them harmless. I'm surprised you don't see that as a breach of basic rights though. |
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The very act of distinguishing between them by assigning different rights to different ghosts makes the claim that they are the same person nonsensical. AFAIK all western countries have such laws today. That´s how we deal with "innocent due to insanity" cases. |
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