02-09-2018, 09:11 AM | #1 |
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Italy, Rome
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alternate form and emergency only
Hi again ^_^
Need help with "alternate form" and limitations: 1) i know that enhancements and limitations can only add to the 15 points of "alternate form" itself. So, i have created a power that can be activated only in stresfull situations (it gives some physical buffs and a innate attack, for a total of 88 points). I add "emergency only" limitation to alternate form, so it now costs 10 points. The question is: can i add "emergency only" to the "alternate form"? i probabily already know the answer, but i wish to know if it s legit by RAW. That's because we have 320 point and this "power" is worth 88 points alone. 2) alternate form expires when i want. I add "reduce time": 30 seconds. Is it legit? Thanks for replies |
02-09-2018, 09:21 AM | #2 |
Join Date: Feb 2016
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Re: alternate form and emergency only
Emergencies Only is a specific variation of the Uncontrollable limitation. In the case of Alternate Form, however, you need enough Reduced Time to decrease the time to 0 to make it meaningful (Reduced Time 5 would reduce it from 10 seconds to 0 seconds). If the template provided by the Alternate Form is too expensive, I would suggest reducing its IQ and/or add mental attributes, so that it would be less expensive (I would suggest giving in -4 IQ, Berserk (12), and Impulsiveness (12), in order to reduce the cost of the template to 0 points). In any case, the Alternate Form would usually expire when the emergency that triggered it was over, though adding Minimum Time might be good.
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02-09-2018, 09:40 AM | #3 | |
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Saskatoon, SK, Canada
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Re: alternate form and emergency only
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To the original poster's question, yes, you can put Emergencies Only on your Alternate Form. You're right, by default it will only reduce the cost of the 15 points for the Alternate Form, not the additional 88 points for the abilities granted by it. However, have you considered just taking the various abilities on their own, and just putting Emergencies Only on all of them? If the aim of this build is just to get some buffs in an emergency, and doesn't actually represent a significantly different form, and particularly if there aren't any disadvantages bundled into it, I'd say it's probably best to just take the abilities on their own, and limit them appropriately. It will save you points, since a) you can skip having to pay 15 extra points (or more, because if you want them available right away, you'll have to buy Reduced Time), and b) you can actually apply limitations like Emergencies Only directly to the cost of the abilities. |
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02-09-2018, 09:47 AM | #4 |
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Madrid, Spain
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Re: alternate form and emergency only
I like the AlexanderHowl way. Think in the meaning of the alternate form only appearing when there is an emergency. Is he a "spirit guardian"? Is he a "subsconscious warrior"?
Maybe you can give him "Berserker", "Callous" and/or "Odious Personal Habit: Kill whoever threatens the original PC". Add him Fanatical or Paranoid if it fits with the concept. Maybe if you can elaborate more the "alternate form" of the PC we can help more :)
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02-09-2018, 10:42 AM | #5 | |||
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Italy, Rome
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I wish to make this transformation lenghts only 30 seconds, no more, and it means i applied "maximum duration 30 seconds, -75%" to altered form (obviously to the 15 points). I'm going to add some disadvantages to reduce the cost. It s a good call! Thank you Quote:
Reading what you wrote now, created me a doubt: there is no quote anywhere that the power expires when the condition ends ehen i aply "emergency only". So i interpreted the limitation as: it activates when stressfull stuff appear but lenght as per normal "alternate form" (aka, as will). So, using "maximum duration" from Powers sounded right. About the disadvantages, as said above, i'm going to add something. Thanks for call! Quote:
Thanks mates!! |
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02-09-2018, 10:58 AM | #6 | |||
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Saskatoon, SK, Canada
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02-09-2018, 11:07 AM | #7 | |
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Italy, Rome
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i 'll post asap edit: that's what i did Inner strenght: Shapeshift, alternate form [15] (Ephestos’ rage [17]; Emergency only, -30%; Maximum duration les than a minute, -65%; Nuisence effect -5%; Reduce time ¼, +40%; TOTALE= -60%) [15 X 0.4+17= 23] • Ephestos’ Rage: Striking ST +4 [5/lvl], DX +1 [20/lvl]; Fatigue points +3 [3/lvl]; HT+5 [2/lvl]; IQ -2 [-20/lvl]; Callous [-5]; Disturbing voice [-10]; Vulnerability, ice (x2 damage) [-10]; berserker [-10]; Bad smell [-10]; Innate attack 4, burning [5/lvl] (Area of effect 4, +100%; Incendiary, +10%; Overhead, +30%; Persistent, +40%; Reduce duration, 3 secs, -10%; Costs fatigue 3, -15%; Limited uses 2 per day, -30%; Takes recharge 5 sec, -10%, TOTALE = +115%) [43] • TOTALE Alternate form= 20+20+9+10-40-5-10-10-10-10+43 = [102-85] = [17] Last edited by Devil_Dante; 02-09-2018 at 11:24 AM. |
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