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Old 09-15-2020, 05:29 AM   #5071
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This could even be an alternate Yrth, with a few changes.
Nasty. Gonna take this and graft it into my ancient fantasy setting. Needed a good trigger for something similar to the historical Bronze Age Collapse. And every fantasy setting needs an abandoned ruined High Elf city...
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Old 09-15-2020, 09:39 AM   #5072
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Prometheus-1 is a TL7 parallel in the early sixteenth century, notable primarily for being a schizo-technological development and appropriate population for its tech that was otherwise a very high inertia parallel - The millions of souls in Europe were still ruled by a collapsing feudal system and guided by a corrupt, Catholic Church hurtling towards the Reformation. Although interested in the strange rigidity-and-flexibility mix of the timeline, Homeline was primarily concerned with averting a potentially nuclear Hundred Years War in Europe - Infinity quietly allowed the Vatican to send many priests to infiltrate and try to reform the Catholic Church before it was too late.

That was until Prometheus-2 was discovered, a TL7 parallel in the early fifth century with schizo-technological development and appropriate populations for its tech that was otherwise a very high inertia parallel. The recurrence of the phenomena was not what freaked out Homeline - While the big name characters of history were the same as their Homeline selves, the great mass of people in Prometheus-2 had alternate timeline selves in Prometheus-1.

Thrown into a panic at the discovery, Infinity's deal with the Vatican leaked to the public and huge fury sprang up within Protestant churches at Infinity's religious meddling. Now, Infinity parachronics experts must work round-the-clock trying to identify the cause of the "Prometheus Convergence", its Cliodynamics experts are working to avert nuclear wars, and the I-Cops are struggling to stem the tide of expat Protestant bomb throwers.

I prefer TL6 for this, myself, but I suppose you want the cold war, not the world wars...
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Old 09-15-2020, 10:39 AM   #5073
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I prefer TL6 for this, myself, but I suppose you want the cold war, not the world wars...
My initial vision was TL6 and I like it as well. The reason for the change was actually that I wanted to expand potential explanations for the Convergence to include either accidental or deliberate technological creation. Parachronics was an early TL8 invention on Homeline, so maybe a cutting edge development in some late-TL7 world caused the Prometheus Convergence.
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Old 09-15-2020, 10:51 AM   #5074
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I swear I've seen something like this before. Have you posted it earlier in this thread or somesuch?
I, too, recall this being posted before.

Which in no way detracts from the epicness of the setting changes.

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I posted it quite some time ago, somewhere--but don't remember where. If here, apologies for the duplication.
No apology necessary! It's a brilliant bit of setting design/alteration.

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Old 09-15-2020, 10:59 AM   #5075
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I, too, recall this being posted before.

Which in no way detracts from the epicness of the setting changes.

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No apology necessary! It's a brilliant bit of setting design/alteration.
Thanks. I'm glad you like it. I originally used the Forgotten Realms, which has a huge Inner Sea, but filed off the name and serial numbers here.
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Old 09-15-2020, 04:21 PM   #5076
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Millennium, 2025
  • Current Affairs: Democratic Hong Kong paves the way in an emerging biotech revolution that replaced the PC revolution, while corporatism and dictatorships dominate the great powers.
  • Divergence Point: 1990? Centralized mainframes draw engineering talent away from the PC revolution, so the Y2K bug was never fixed and war nearly broke about between China and the West.
  • Major Civilizations: Chinese (Multipolar), Western (Bipolar)
  • Great Powers: Chinese Confederation (Feudal Representative Democracy, CR2-3), People’s Republic of China (Dictatorship, CR5), Corporatist China (Oligarchy, CR4), United States (Dictatorship, CR4), European Community (Feudal Oligarchy, CR4)
  • Worldline Data
    • TL: 9 (biotech, late TL9)
    • Mana Level: no mana
    • Quantum: 7
    • Infinity Class: Z3
    • Centrum Zone: Red

Millennium diverged in the late 1980s/early 1990s with the failure of the personal computer to reach offices and homes apparently because of a loss of programmers and engineers to various government programs. Without the economic boom created by the PC revolution and a stronger democratic movement in China (apparently spawned from their computerization programs), the British balked at returning Hong Kong to the PRC, planning to hold a referendum on the issue in late 1999. The Chinese were angered by this decision, and began exerting pressure on the territory, culminating the blockade of Hong Kong shortly before the referendum. At the same time, the democratic elements in Hong Kong began strengthening relations with other democracies in the region, including Taiwan and South Korea. The blockade in the South China Sea seemed that it would ignite into a global war with the Chinese, but this was not to be.

As there was minimal presence of computers in day to day life, publicity for the Y2K problem was far lower than OTL. Little action was taken to fix the problem and along with the ongoing war, the problems rapidly spiraled out of control. In the following chaos, Hong Kong won its independence from China along with several other cities, as China fell into chaos. The Secretary of Defense assumed emergency powers following the destruction of the capital building by air traffic control error. Electrical power distribution failed around the world. High-speed train collisions occurred on a massive scale throughout the globe. Accidental nuclear war nearly erupted, but American and Chinese commanders refused to fire until after a stand-down order came through. The disasters eventually came to a halt, destroying much of the world’s infrastructure in the process.

The Free Cities of China (principally Fuzhou, Hong Kong, Macau, Shanghai and Shenzhen), have formed a sort of confederation with Taiwan. They have more or less intact governments, but the constituents agree to free trade and military cooperation. The confederation is primarily divided over relations with China and relations with the West (Taiwan faction favours the West, Mainland faction favours China). The confederation generally agrees on expansion, but the fervor varies (Taiwan favours steady expansion through the bamboo network in Southeast Asia, Shanghai is the most radical favouring open support for Democratic groups on the Mainland).

China proper is in a bit of a crisis; a number of governors are merely paying lip service to the Beijing Regime and operating as nearly independent governments. Only directives that are paired with armed force are certain to go through. Private enterprise has had a significant effect on the recovery of China, so much so that the corporations have set up their own regime, centered on Guangzhou. They have been gathering influence in the south, and squabbles between Guangzhou and Beijing have been routine since 2013. On the other hand, people have been predicting civil war would come “next year” for the past ten years. It’s still a possibility that the Guangzhou regime could steadily subsume the Beijing regime, or that some kind of power-sharing agreement could be reached. They aren’t without their similarities though; democratic groups are repressed by both sides and they do cooperate on external affairs.

The United States finds itself in the 25th year of a temporary emergency, but with the quiet replacement of Secretary Cohen in 2007, it seems unlikely that emergency powers will ever be rescinded, as the government appears quite effective. Post-Y2K rebuilding measures have led to steady economic growth. A strong response to terrorism near the beginning of the millennium has only boosted the government’s credibility.

The European Community was changed by the collapse. During the rebuilding effort across Europe, large corporations quickly took over a large chunk of the economy. While the governments are on paper the same compared as pre-collapse days, any government that wants to get things done needs to come to an agreement with the corporations or face parliamentary chaos.

Lesser powers are likely to find themselves heavily influenced by the great powers or corporations based in them. Russia is the strongest of all of them and it has difficulty dealing with the machinations of Europe and China. While both sides see Russia as a wonderful prize, neither side wants to see it retake great power status, and thus work together to keep nationalists weak.

Beijing China is more fearful of the west because of the near war in 1999, and thus spends much effort ringing itself in client states, the closest of which is North Korea. North Korea has seen great improvement in the standard of living because of Chinese aid, as well as developing a large and high-tech military. Fearing the North Korean military, South Korea turned away from the Chinese democracies and pursues closer relations with the United States, who maintain their troops in the region.

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Old 09-15-2020, 04:22 PM   #5077
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Japan is in a poor state. The economy, already in trouble because of the bubble’s collapse, took a beating as the government was paralyzed in the face of a number of nuclear accidents and other Y2K related disasters. Even private measures for recovery had trouble because of a tight money supply enforced by the Bank of Japan. Today, Japan is swept up in the forces of radical politics, in a way that hasn’t been seen since before World War 2. Ultranationalist and communist paramilitaries fight on the streets, fueled by disillusioned youths. Corporatists in the National Diet press for a military build-up to crackdown after every assassination and terrorist attack. And it only gets worse when the Americans talk about sending in more troops to stabilize the situation.

The developing world faced little chaos from within because they had few computer systems, but the disruption elsewhere in the world had knock-on effects that damaged their own stability. The economically important were stabilized by mercenaries hired by corporations, while the less important countries collapsed into anarchy.

Society is largely TL 9; after the collapse in 2000, policy was to rebuild new, so infrastructure is sharply more advanced than previous decades. Coal power plants are replaced with natural gas (if rebuilt at all), trains have been replaced with maglevs, air travel is supersonic, and nuclear power plants breed their own fuel. Personal computers only have the most rudimentary user interfaces and while fairly powerful, are not seen in the workplace. Cell phones haven’t developed into smartphones, but instead have miniaturized, the smallest the size of a watch. The internet is closer to the internet of 1997; little multimedia is online. Mainframes and other centralized computer systems are twenty years ahead, providing large boosts to research heavy industries like biotechnology or aerospace.

Biotechnology is particularly advanced in Hong Kong, where a combination of minimal regulation and favorable tax rates for startups create a “Carbon Valley” of sorts. Human genetic modifications controversial around the world, while the US banned them completely, Europe prefers heavy taxation and the Chinese Democracies have minimal regulation, if any. In the PRC, the situation is more complicated; while there are almost no regulations, this is more because there is little access to the modifications. The rich can travel to a foreign country for treatment, while the emerging middle class (difficulty securing an exit visa, regular travel requirements, etc.) has almost no opportunity to take advantage of genetic enhancement at all. Some technocratic elements in the Chinese Communist Party talk about implementing genetic upgrades on the whole population, some going so far to suggest a new caste system. Biotech innovations of substantially less controversy include drastically improved GM crops. These crops have not only cut down incidences of malnutrition, but have also made ethanol fuels substantially more workable. As well, biotech has provided a big boost to medicine, providing insulin producing symbionts for diabetics and antiviral treatments for those with AIDS.

Aerospace developed at a rapid rate in the 1990s. The Americans began constructing the Space Station Freedom, while Europe and China began developing their manned space programs. At the same time, Shimizu Corp began moving ahead with their plans to build a space hotel. After the collapse in 2000, national space programs were severely scaled back. Shimizu’s space hotel managed to benefit from the reduced demand and was completed by 2007. Though very costly, this proved very auspicious; in the early 2010s, a breakthrough in wet-nanotechnology was discovered. However, creating large structures is a very difficult and time-consuming process in earth gravity. Orbital wet-nanofacture was hailed as the solution, and by 2020, there were a dozen wet-nanofacs in orbit. Demand for water spiked, and an American start-up began shipping water mined from Deimos to LEO.

Centrum apparently found this world first and has already began backing the United States. Lower levels of the bureaucracy have been thoroughly infiltrated and is steadily pushing the United States in a technocratic direction. Infinity reluctantly supports anti-government groups and corporatist elements of the government. Beyond opposing Centrum, and tech-looting, Infinity tries to promote democracy to a world seemingly turning away from it. Homeline China is insistent that Infinity does not do anything threatening Beijing China’s interests, hamstringing Infinity. Infinity believes this is because Homeline China doesn’t like the idea it’s fragile enough to simply collapse like that. The real truth is that Homeline China loathes the quick collapse of China so much that it’s making careful interventions to push the situation in Beijing’s favour. They have been making increasingly less subtle interventions and are very overconfident; a lost conveyor remains a certain possibility.
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Old 09-16-2020, 12:53 AM   #5078
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A cultural close parallel until the invention of Parachronics, Derivative on Q5 diverged with the failure of the 1835 Copyright Act in the United States to increase the duration of a copyright. The term remained fourteen years. The one optional renewal was abolished by the Radical Republicans, caught up in the ideology of free labor. Iterative fiction, building on its predecessors, grew to dominate American literature and eventually its film industry. Derivative's America produces a wide variety of movies, TV shows, video games, and novels that would in other worlds have been illegal and science fiction and fantasy are the dominant genres. On the downside, much of Derivative's fiction is dominated by a handful of milieus and mythos.

Ordinarily, White Star engages in a tidy cultural product exchange with other high-tech parallels, but Homeline's own restrictive copyright laws make it difficult to turn a profit on basically any popular fiction from Derivative - For example, "Imperial Folly", a Star Wars based movie directed by Christopher Nolan, is hailed as a critical masterpiece on Derivative - But it's illegal to reproduce for profit on Homeline. With plenty of other exploitable cultural wells more useable, like Gallatin or Cherokee, White Star wrote off Derivative (hence the name). Without any particularly strong reason to do so, the patrol itself has historically maintained basically no presence on Derivative.

The massive, dominant fan cultures of Derivative, however, produce truly remarkable volumes of low cost, high quality goods within fandoms that are also prominent on Homeline. Swagmen and freelancers with a conveyor make good money smuggling these goods back to Homeline, where they can be sold for a tidy profit.
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Old 09-18-2020, 09:17 AM   #5079
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Try this one...

This Q4 low manna parallel shows signs of out time interference. Someone is introducing technologies into late classical Britain and Ireland. The local year would be 300CE. The spinning wheel, the push-pedal loom, the moldboard plow, the horsecollar, etc, have all shown up in Britain and Ireland. Both islands show impressive signs of growth and most of the new technologies are showing up in Northern France.

What's going on and why? Do the events of 310CE when Maximian rebelled against Constantine have anything to do with this?

There are multiple swagmen and Cabalist agents who might pull this stunt off but finding out who has done this and why is vital.
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Old 09-19-2020, 10:59 AM   #5080
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On this Q6 low manna world history diverged sometime durring the rule of the Ptolematic Dynasty. There must have been scolars at the Library who were sent east to seek rare plants. However it happened, cloves, nutmeg, black pepper, mulberries, silk worms, banannas, oranges, and several unusual cultivers of wheat, all found their way to Egypt and by extension the Mediterranean Basin. The early introduction of Sericulture radically alters the ecconomics of the ancient world. Add to that that Egyptian cloves, nutmeg, and mace, are competitive in asian markets so Egypt is vastly richer than in Homeline's history and there was a fuller exchange of technologies in the ancient world. Paper making got to Rome durring the Republic and glassmaking got to China similarly early.

The current year in this parallel is 530CE. Rome is still vital, wealthy, and pagan. Although Christianity exists, it's a minor cult associated with the poor and assettics. The society has recently transitioned to tech level four, with medicine being more sophistocated and useful than in most TL4 societies. Slavery still exists but it seems to be evolving into a radically different institution which unlike chattle slavery involves actual rights for the slaves. Still, slavery remains a horror for the slave.

Rome has expanded into Southern Germany and Western Persia and is planning a conquest of the rest. Meanwhile the Empire that rules Northern India wants those lands for itself. Meanwhile, Roman sailors and fishermen have found North America. Rome's scholars are slowly beginning to take notice. The possibility of the Columbian Exchange happening in this parallel suggests this Rome might conquer this world, if it doesn't collapse because of the 535 Events.

Basically, a great environment for exotic adventures. It blends the attractions of the Classical world and the Renaisance period.
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