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All fairy music is improvised, pleasant or otherwise. "I don't know how your musicians do it, creating the same songs century after century. I can see the marks on the paper but how can you have a written language for music?"
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03-05-2016, 08:24 PM | #26 |
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That's a good question, actually.
The fae are alien, and the folklore isn't entirely consistent in describing them. It's not hard to imagine them using music created by others, their skill in playing it making in enchanting. Or it's not hard to imagine that they take music from other places, and imbue it with magic. Or maybe the time differential in so many stories has nothing to do with the music, but is something to do with the world of Faerie itself. |
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It is worth mentioning, though, that the only reason poetry reached mankind was because the dwarfs were forced to pay the mead as weregild, and eventually it ended up in the hands of the gods who doled it out to men at their whim. There were also the muses. Part fae, part divine (with the Greek myths, there was never an obvious divide), they were the very genesis of creativity for mortal artists. Chiron was also noted as a fine musician. Pan, of course, invented the pan pipes. Luke |
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On balance, though, I'm not sure Classical Civilization even had a concept like 'fae', as such. Centaurs, river gods, etc., yeah, but the context was rather different than what we think with the word 'fae', though modern Westerners sometimes throw in entities from Classical belief, like fawns and centaurs, with the fae in fiction.] The 'context' that we think of as fae seems to be a specific element of Western Civilization, derived in much from northern Germanic ideas and reshaped by contact with Christianity. Most of the Germanic languages of northern Europe have, or once had before it was displaced by the English import, a word that is cognate with 'elf', and that carries some of the contexts of what we call 'the fae'. If we can trust our very limited sources on the matter, the pre-Christian Germanic peoples seem to have made a distinction of some kind between gods and fae, too. Last edited by Johnny1A.2; 03-06-2016 at 07:26 PM. |
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But if you still reject Greek sources, note that the dwarfs of Scandinavian mythology displayed abundant creativity in the realm of invention and construction. Of their own device and volition, they produced Mjolnir (Thor's hammer), Gleipnir (the ribbon that bound the Fenris wolf), Skidbladnir (a magical ship that can fold up and fit in a pocket), Gungnir (Odin's spear that never missed), Draupnir (a golden armband that could multiply itself), and many others. They were renowned for their craftmanship even among the gods. Luke |
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An instance of that is in the Isles. When trolls migrated to Scotland they gained a little of the subtle fearfulness of Fair Folk instead of being the more muscular Scandinavian trolls.
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