06-11-2018, 03:38 PM | #3351 |
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06-11-2018, 04:16 PM | #3352 |
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No, but both the French kings had similar views of Britain. Either way, in this setting France is part of the continental alliance against Britain.
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06-11-2018, 09:37 PM | #3353 |
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I don't know. The constitutional governments of Spain, Portugal and France may very well fear the more aggressive Eastern powers and rally around the British, supported by Lord Palmerston.
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06-12-2018, 01:35 AM | #3354 |
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The Spanish king proudly refuted the Spanish constitution with the joyous support of the Spanish Catholic Church. So they might not support British constitutionalism.
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06-12-2018, 07:51 AM | #3355 |
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Until 1833, when the Bourbons sided with the Liberals for support against the Carlists.
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06-12-2018, 03:06 PM | #3356 |
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And through the whole period supported the Holy Alliance. Look, I said this was an alternate history were the Holy Alliance had its act together and could actually do what they often said they wanted to do. Like a world were the Nazis could actually win WWII this world is radically different than our own.
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Personally, I'd incline to make this version of the Holy Alliance a very cynical Prussian scheme. Of the three, they were the dynamic, efficient, progressive-according-to-their-own-lights mob; if they bafflegabbed the other two into providing them with cannon fodder, resources, and a secure eastern border, under a scrim of pseudo-religious doubletalk, they could be trouble. The diplomatic solution would then consist of the British jumping up and down and yelling "You're being scammed!" at the Russians and Austrians.
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06-13-2018, 06:11 AM | #3358 | |
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I like your idea about Prussia pulling the strings. If we have Centrum deluded into thinking they're pulling Prussia's strings, it could add layers of confusion to the game.
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06-13-2018, 09:24 AM | #3359 | |
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Making the Alliance a maritime power is quite tricky, especially as long as the British hold Gibraltar. So... ok, going into space bat territory... Britain and France somehow come to an accord and a close alliance. This probably has to happen directly as a result of the Napoleonic wars, so let's say that instead of fully restoring the Bourbons, the French adopt a system similar to the British, with parliament balancing a fairly strong (and perhaps less incompetent) monarch. Maybe Napoleon II? This, of course, incenses the Holy Alliance, and threatens Spain - which (again through Space Bat influence) actually gets its naval act together. So now the Holy Alliance of Russia, Prussia, Austria, and Spain face off against the somewhat democratic Anglo-French Alliance in a cold war that's likely to go hot soonish. Everyone's still exhausted from the Napoleonic Wars - it's only been twenty years - but tensions are rising. Meanwhile, the USA is happily trading with one and all, and the Spanish American colonies are getting restive. Downside, aside from all the Space Bat stuff, is that it looks an awful lot like WWI verson 0.5. Or maybe that's an up side. |
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06-13-2018, 11:56 AM | #3360 | |
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The British historically spent nearly all their military budget on their navy. The large British armies of WWI and WWII were quite unusual. The British calculation was that a power would have to dominate all of Europe to be able to afford a large enough fleet to beat the Royal Navy. So they made sure that nobody ever dominated all of Europe, and treated preventing that as a matter of national survival. The good feature of Gibraltar is that it lets you impede Mediterranean fleets (half of Spain, half of France, Italy, Austria. Turkey, Russian Black Sea fleet) from joining forces with Atlantic fleets ((half of Spain, half of France, Netherlands, Germany, Scandinavia, Russian Baltic and Northern fleets).
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