Magic 4e: Cure Insanity?

[DrTemp]

Well, the Relieve Madness spell tells us that for permanent cure of a mental disad, one should use the Cure Insanity spell.

Unfortunately, that one does not exist. A mistake by the author, or did I overlook anything?

[RelFexive]

From the errata:

"Strike the sentence "For permanent relief, use Cure Insanity." from Relieve Madness."

[DrTemp]

Originally Posted by RelFexive

From the errata:

"Strike the sentence "For permanent relief, use Cure Insanity." from Relieve Madness."

Ah. Thanks.

Never mind, then. :-)

[evileeyore]

Yeah, I'm rezzing this thread...


So, is there an official reason Cure Insanity was struck from Magic 4e? Or was this a simple oversight?

[malloyd]

Originally Posted by evileeyore

Yeah, I'm rezzing this thread...

So, is there an official reason Cure Insanity was struck from Magic 4e? Or was this a simple oversight?

I think it's fairly obvious that this (and Cure Addiction, from the same page of Grimoire) didn't make it because it involves a buying off a disadvantage. This is something that various GMs do differently and SJG has long resisted settling on "official" mechanics for. I suspect if Restoration hadn't been in the rules since forever, it wouldn't have made it either.

[David Johnston2]

That, and "Cure Insanity" isn't even something in the source material barring the kind of "insanity" that is the product of demonic possession or evil spells. When mundane insanity is cured by supernatural force majeure it tends to require direct celestial intervention.

Or this: https://youtu.be/kdIxSdhsUgs?t=121

And half the time that petrifies, banishes or outright kills the target.

[Fred Brackin]

Originally Posted by malloyd

I suspect if Restoration hadn't been in the rules since forever, it wouldn't have made it either.

No, with game mechanics that can disable PCs for inconvenient and/or impractical periods of time a game emchanic to re-able them is required. If anything Restoration should be easier.

Insanities that result from Demonic possession and similar probably yield to Remove Curse.

[evileeyore]

Originally Posted by malloyd

I think it's fairly obvious that this (and Cure Addiction, from the same page of Grimoire) didn't make it because it involves a buying off a disadvantage.

I disagree, considering the number of ways to just give enemies Disadvantages in spells, and the various other Disad removing spells, Restoration, Remove Curse, Permanent Possession, Exchange Bodies, Dispel Possession, Stone to Flesh, Great Wish, Cure Disease, Restore Memory, Regeneration, Youth, Resurrection...