Wall-climbing goats

Dalillama · 03-12-2018, 05:27 PM

Assuming I wanted a character who could do this, what advantages/skills are called for?

Kelly Pedersen · 03-12-2018, 05:44 PM

I'd call it Clinging (Accessibility: 80-degree slopes or less only, -50%; Specific, Rough surfaces only, -20%) [6]. The Accessibility pricing is based on the idea that being able to cling upside-down and to fully vertical walls is a big part of Clinging, so losing that is worth a large discount, while the Specific is based on the idea that it's -40% to be able to only stick to a single common item, so "rough surfaces", which is a larger category, must be worth less as a limitation.

~~evileeyore~~ · 03-12-2018, 05:48 PM

Very high Climbing skill. Shapeshifting if you want to do it in Goat form.

johndallman · 03-12-2018, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dalillama

Assuming I wanted a character who could do this, what advantages/skills are called for?

To do it reliably, buy the Clinging advantage.

If you want to do it with skills, buy lots of Climbing, max out the Scaling technique on page B233, and talk your GM into bonuses for advanced equipment. The sticky rubber soles of modern rock-climbing shoes are remarkably effective, and High-Tech p69 gives them +1 to both Climbing and Stealth.

Tomsdad · 03-13-2018, 05:57 AM

Also farm positive mods like extra time.

Humabout · 03-13-2018, 07:16 PM

I'd consider either high Climbing skill or Clinging (Requires Hoof-Holds, -50%) [3]. I'm not sure how I'd price Requires Hoof-Holds, but -50% seems reasonable.

Flyndaran · 03-13-2018, 07:50 PM

Realistically, goats have no ability to cling at all. So all they can be using is climbing skill. If Gurps Climbing skill isn't capable of modeling that, then I'd say it's a limitation of the game skill rather than anything else.

Alden Loveshade · 03-13-2018, 09:16 PM

Climbing is "...the ability to climb...rock walls....See Climbing (p. 349) for details." (B. 183). On B. 349, climbing a stone wall is Climbing-3.

EDIT: I've raised goats, but never had a stone wall for them to climb. But I did see them leap onto and stand on the slick narrow edge of a bathtub used as a water trough many times. So perhaps they have Perfect Balance as well.

~~smurf~~ · 03-14-2018, 04:03 AM

I would go with perfect balance.

Climbing Talent.
Climbing Skill
Breath Control

Maybe Light Walk (prerequisite - Stealth)

Uneven Surfaces
Patience of Job

There are several avenues.

Celti · 03-14-2018, 06:28 AM

I'd honestly call it a variation of Brachiator (p. B41). Same general effects and Climbing bonus, but instead of applying to swinging from vine to vine, it applies to traversing trees, mountainsides, and similar rough, steep surfaces. Name it, say, Scansorial [5].

03-12-2018, 05:27 PM	#1
Dalillama Join Date: Nov 2004	Wall-climbing goats Assuming I wanted a character who could do this, what advantages/skills are called for?

03-12-2018, 05:44 PM	#2
Kelly Pedersen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Saskatoon, SK, Canada	Re: Wall-climbing goats I'd call it Clinging (Accessibility: 80-degree slopes or less only, -50%; Specific, Rough surfaces only, -20%) [6]. The Accessibility pricing is based on the idea that being able to cling upside-down and to fully vertical walls is a big part of Clinging, so losing that is worth a large discount, while the Specific is based on the idea that it's -40% to be able to only stick to a single common item, so "rough surfaces", which is a larger category, must be worth less as a limitation.

03-12-2018, 05:48 PM	#3
~~evileeyore~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: 100 hurricane swamp	Re: Wall-climbing goats Very high Climbing skill. Shapeshifting if you want to do it in Goat form.

03-13-2018, 05:57 AM	#5
Tomsdad Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Brighton	Re: Wall-climbing goats Also farm positive mods like extra time.

03-13-2018, 07:16 PM	#6
Humabout Join Date: Aug 2008	Re: Wall-climbing goats I'd consider either high Climbing skill or Clinging (Requires Hoof-Holds, -50%) [3]. I'm not sure how I'd price Requires Hoof-Holds, but -50% seems reasonable. __________________ Buy My Stuff! *Free Stuff:* Dungeon Action! Totem Spirits My Blog: Above the Flatline.

03-13-2018, 07:50 PM	#7
Flyndaran Untagged Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Forest Grove, Beaverton, Oregon	Re: Wall-climbing goats Realistically, goats have no ability to cling at all. So all they can be using is climbing skill. If Gurps Climbing skill isn't capable of modeling that, then I'd say it's a limitation of the game skill rather than anything else. __________________ Beware, poor communication skills. No offense intended. If offended, it just means that I failed my writing skill check.

03-13-2018, 09:16 PM	#8
Alden Loveshade Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Hmm, looks like Earth, circa CE 2020+	Re: Wall-climbing goats Climbing is "...the ability to climb...rock walls....See Climbing (p. 349) for details." (B. 183). On B. 349, climbing a stone wall is Climbing-3. EDIT: I've raised goats, but never had a stone wall for them to climb. But I did see them leap onto and stand on the slick narrow edge of a bathtub used as a water trough many times. So perhaps they have Perfect Balance as well. __________________ GURPS Fantasy Folk: Elves My first GURPS supplement Top 12 Clues You're a Role-Playing Old-Timer My humorous (I hope) article that also promotes SJGames/GURPS Kerry Thornley: Dwarf Planet Eris, Discordianism, and The John F. Kennedy Assassination Without Thornley, there would never have been the Steve Jackson Games edition of Principia Discordia Last edited by Alden Loveshade; 03-13-2018 at 09:20 PM. Reason: Perfect Balance

03-14-2018, 04:03 AM	#9
~~smurf~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bristol	Re: Wall-climbing goats I would go with perfect balance. Climbing Talent. Climbing Skill Breath Control Maybe Light Walk (prerequisite - Stealth) Uneven Surfaces Patience of Job There are several avenues.

03-14-2018, 06:28 AM	#10
Celti Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA, Arizona, Mesa	Re: Wall-climbing goats I'd honestly call it a variation of Brachiator (p. B41). Same general effects and Climbing bonus, but instead of applying to swinging from vine to vine, it applies to traversing trees, mountainsides, and similar rough, steep surfaces. Name it, say, Scansorial [5].