06-16-2013, 10:31 PM | #1 |
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Starting Geasa
Hey all. Quick question.
For fun yesterday I whipped up a Free Lilim as a starting PC. I was wondering if their nine Geas/3s counted as Discord and gave the matching number of points that any other DIscord would give. I figured it was about 27 points given total. Is that right? |
06-17-2013, 07:02 AM | #2 |
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Atlanta GA
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Re: Starting Geasa
I'm not sure what the technical answer is, but I've never counted geasa as the kind of discord that could lead to falling/redeeming. It's visible, your friends may not like it, but it in of itself isn't a crack in what you are (unless you are a malakite with an oath about such things).
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06-17-2013, 07:25 AM | #3 |
Petitioner: Word of IN Filk
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Longmont, CO
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Re: Starting Geasa
Yeah, my understand is that a Lilim's Geases don't give any more points than a Malakim's Oaths would or a Mercurian's inability to use violence -- they're an integral part of the character rather than an individual disadvantage, albeit one that can be slowly (but almost never completely) worked off.
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06-18-2013, 10:58 PM | #4 |
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Re: Starting Geasa
Okay. Thanks. I wasn't sure.
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06-20-2013, 05:42 AM | #5 |
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: South of the Town across from the City by the Bay
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Re: Starting Geasa
Free Lilim geases are the price for each force to create their existence. They don't get bonus Character Points for having such geases. It's their starting debt to just be alive.
True, a Geas is technically still an Ethereal Discord. However just like Calabim and their mandatory discord that never goes away and never gives them CP, Free Lilim similarly receive no CP for their creation geases. |
06-20-2013, 08:29 AM | #6 | |
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Boston, MA
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Re: Starting Geasa
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EDIT: Note that that same FAQ says that a Free Lilim's geases are NOT worth character points, and that it's up to the GM whether any other Lilim's geases are worth anything. |
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06-20-2013, 04:38 PM | #7 | |
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Re: Starting Geasa
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06-23-2013, 09:46 AM | #8 |
Join Date: Aug 2010
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Re: Starting Geasa
Owing geasa to local NPCs (for whatever reason) or people currently involved in the plot is an actual disadvantage that you might want to get points for. Owing geasa to Lilith, however (or generically, to any character not directly intervening) is largely character background. Character hooks, even, as you can justify being in a party if Lilith tugs or sells one of your geese.
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06-23-2013, 12:08 PM | #9 | |
Petitioner: Word of IN Filk
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Longmont, CO
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Re: Starting Geasa
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