Sooo . . .What do you want?

[Cat]

I want to see the [img] function turned on for this board!

This is the least miniatures-friendly forum I've ever been on for not being able to just directly see photos of what folks are working on and of their game reports.

[Cundiff]

I'm a pretty simple guy. I played Ogre way back in the 70's and have been thinking about getting a new game. My old one disappeared way back in my college days. I loved the Bolo books by Laumer. So, of course I'd like to see some kind of homage to his Bolos.

But most important to me is that I'd simply like a nice Ogre game with semi-mounted (cardboard) maps and die cut counters. I don't need all those fancy plastic things and wouldn't bother purchasing them, not even if you gave them to me. Oh, they're nice, but they're a bottomless black hole.

I just want a simple game like that I used to play way back in the 70's with better graphics and production values.

Tom Cundiff

[TheAmishStig]

Originally Posted by Cundiff

I'm a pretty simple guy. I played Ogre way back in the 70's and have been thinking about getting a new game. My old one disappeared way back in my college days. I loved the Bolo books by Laumer. So, of course I'd like to see some kind of homage to his Bolos.

But most important to me is that I'd simply like a nice Ogre game with semi-mounted (cardboard) maps and die cut counters. I don't need all those fancy plastic things and wouldn't bother purchasing them, not even if you gave them to me. Oh, they're nice, but they're a bottomless black hole.

I just want a simple game like that I used to play way back in the 70's with better graphics and production values.

Tom Cundiff

Check out Ogre 6th Edition...it's exactly what you're describing! Hardboard maps (to the same production standard as Designer's Edition), die-cut counters that are decently thick, and 3D die-cut Ogres / Command Posts, in a box that is about 12x12x3.

6E runs $50 at MSRP, and is the "crater map" base game.

Reinforcements, the first expansion, runs $20 and adds most of the 'variant' units...Light tanks/GEVs, Superheavy tanks, Mobile howitzers, and the GEV Personnel Carrier...as well as a full compliment of Combine defenders / PanEuro Ogres.

Battlefields has yet to properly launch, but is scheduled to bring with it a smattering of new units / buildings, along with the GEV-style maps out of the old-school (2001) 'Battlefields'.

The book Ogre Miniatures might be work picking up, too. It's a bit spendy since you're not too keen on the plastic [though there's nothing saying you can't play Miniatures rules with the die-cut units!]. I'm suggesting it here because it comes with a pair of die-cut sheets that are 6E-compatible, some of which contain units that aren't currently available anywhere else (like the Mk VI, radio towers, a Vulcan / its drones).

[Mack_JB]

Originally Posted by Cundiff

But most important to me is that I'd simply like a nice Ogre game with semi-mounted (cardboard) maps and die cut counters. I don't need all those fancy plastic things and wouldn't bother purchasing them, not even if you gave them to me. Oh, they're nice, but they're a bottomless black hole.

Your wish has been answered:

http://www.warehouse23.com/products/ogre-sixth-edition

[Cundiff]

Originally Posted by TheAmishStig

Check out Ogre 6th Edition...3D die-cut Ogres / Command Posts,

This is the part that concerns me. I'd rather just a flat counter, instead of the 3D things. I've seen this edition and have avoided it because of the 3D Ogres.

Edit: Had a thought. Do any of the expansions have just a flat Ogre counter that can substitute for the 3D things?

And, if not, is there any convenient artwork anywhere that one can use to "make their own" flat Ogre counter?

[TheAmishStig]

Originally Posted by Cundiff

This is the part that concerns me. I'd rather just a flat counter, instead of the 3D things. I've seen this edition and have avoided it because of the 3D Ogres.

Edit: Had a thought. Do any of the expansions have just a flat Ogre counter that can substitute for the 3D things?

And, if not, is there any convenient artwork anywhere that one can use to "make their own" flat Ogre counter?

There are a couple ways, but yes...flat Ogres are available.

The "Nihon North American Divisions" had a couple flat Ogres mixed in, and are still available via the 'Sponsored Counters' page...but I think it was just Mk.I, Mk.II, Mk.III-B, and Mk.V.

If you can find one being sold off piecemeal, Designer's Edition had a sheet that was nothing but various flat Ogres, gray on one side, yellow on the other. Those are still typically two-hex, but is the most comprehensive

There's also the "Classic Counters" set, available on Warehouse 23. It's ODE-grade die-cuts, in an oversized version of the old square + silhouette style of the old-school editions. Those are all one hex per, but I don't know if they have the full range of cybertanks.

[GranitePenguin]

Originally Posted by Cundiff

Edit: Had a thought. Do any of the expansions have just a flat Ogre counter that can substitute for the 3D things?

And, if not, is there any convenient artwork anywhere that one can use to "make their own" flat Ogre counter?

Not exactly, but there are some options.

The Classic Counters have that old-school square counter look. You can get a physical set or a free PDF for print-and-play. Both have a full complement of Ogres.

There are still some sponsor sheets out there that have Flat Ogres (but it's limited in which Ogres). The Nihon set has a flat 1-hex Mark V, Mark III and Mark III-b, for example.

If you can get your hands on a sheet of the Flat ogres from ODE, that would work, too. You'd have to find that aftermarket from someone that doesn't want them and is willing to break up their set, though.

The artwork on the 3D counter is decent enough that you could just use the main flat piece in a pinch, but you'd really be pushing it at that point.

If it's just the look of the 3D chipboard that bothers you, and not the fact it's not flat, you could get a set of Ogre Miniatures 1 to have a Real 3D Ogre.

[GranitePenguin]

That's what I get for researching links while posting :-)

[GranitePenguin]

Originally Posted by TheAmishStig

There's also the "Classic Counters" set, available on Warehouse 23. It's ODE-grade die-cuts, in an oversized version of the old square + silhouette style of the old-school editions. Those are all one hex per, but I don't know if they have the full range of cybertanks.

Yes, they do. I highly recommend getting the free PDF set. Even if you don't plan to use them, they are good to have in a pinch. Also, printing them on different colored cardstock gives you instant extra armies.

[Cundiff]

You can get a physical set or a free PDF for print-and-play.

Yes, I like the flat old school stuff.

I think the above is what I am looking for.

Thanks,
Tom

Edit: Just downloaded the free PDF. Turns out those are really quite primitive. Was looking more for modern artwork rendered as a flat counter.

I may have to make my own. I'm something of a graphic artist for the hobby. I've done lots of playtest artwork, and a few games have my finished art. However, in truth, I'm more of a draftsman than an artist. But I can manipulate Photoshop rather well. So, I'll see what I can come up with.