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Old 01-27-2020, 08:53 AM   #1
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Default Finely gridded hex paper with MH overlay?

The materials for mapping and laying out labyrinths have been evolving over the last year or two, and with the appearance of DoD I think a better paradigm has appeared ... but I'm not aware of any paper that is suitable for mapping in this new way!

Now that I have the Labyrinth Hexes in my hands, I am surprised (but pleased) to learn that they are actually presented at a very fine combat hex scale with megahex overlays, rather than at the 'canonical' labyrinth scale of 1 MH per map hex. If you have ever drafted a labyrinth at the nominal labyrinth scale you will realize that this is better because it is very difficult to represent narrow passages and small features at 1 MH per hex - it works seamlessly with some orientations of narrow and small features but not others, largely because megahexes don't actually tesselate in exactly the same way that a similar-sized hex does. You can fake it, but it isn't ideal because in the end your paper map doesn't exactly represent what you mean. Anyway, the Labyrinth Hex system does this better and I intend to shift my 1MH per hex maps to this format.

BUT, I'm not aware of any supply of hex paper that is suitable. There is some hex paper with MH overlays provided with the Legacy Edition, but it is much too coarse scaled for a labyrinth base (it is really only appropriate for its intended purpose of making little local maps of sections of labyrinths).

Anyone have an angle on appropriate mapping paper with a hex scale of ~1 per 1/8" or so and a MH overlay?
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Old 01-27-2020, 10:09 AM   #2
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Default Re: Finely gridded hex paper with MH overlay?

A few minutes with ShaMat produces a page of Megahexes.
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Old 01-27-2020, 10:59 AM   #3
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Thanks! Is that the same scale as the Labyrinth Hex cards? It looks pretty close.
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Old 01-27-2020, 11:18 AM   #4
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I was just going for a near 1/8" grid of 640x800 hexes per letter sized page.

But I had to fit to print anyway. Will check my PDF settings.

Shamat lets you easily produce random tunnels just add traps and things.
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Old 01-27-2020, 11:29 AM   #5
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Thanks. When I get home tonight I'll print out a sheet and hold it up against the Labyrinth cards; what I'm aiming for is a 'look' where the two are more or less compatible with one another. Cheers-
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Old 01-27-2020, 11:53 AM   #6
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The Lab Hexes are actually a fifth of an inch rather than an eighth.
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Old 01-27-2020, 11:57 AM   #7
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Good to know!
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Old 01-27-2020, 12:09 PM   #8
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There's EasyHex https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product...t?src=sjgforum though it doesn't actually do sheets of TFT-style megahexes... yet...
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Old 01-27-2020, 12:57 PM   #9
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... If you have ever drafted a labyrinth at the nominal labyrinth scale you will realize that this is better because it is very difficult to represent narrow passages and small features at 1 MH per hex - it works seamlessly with some orientations of narrow and small features but not others, largely because megahexes don't actually tesselate in exactly the same way that a similar-sized hex does. You can fake it, but it isn't ideal because in the end your paper map doesn't exactly represent what you mean.
When using traditional labyrinth-scale maps, you can draw them so you use each corner, or the center, as if there were smaller hexes in them.

Like this.

It's not as good as having actual megahex paper, but it can work pretty well.
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Old 01-27-2020, 05:04 PM   #10
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I made my own megahex graph paper in 3 scales; the smallest is 5mm per hex (not per megahex).

If you reach out to me on Discord (link is in the signature file; my handle there is Tollenkar), I can give you a pdf.

We need more hex maps around, and more people designing them means more maps!
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