09-18-2013, 06:38 AM | #31 | |
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Also, what is this 'cannot program'? We're talking about a post-nanotech-revolution setting; nanodrugs and psychosurgery FTW! |
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09-18-2013, 06:46 AM | #32 | |
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People who advocate for freedom of bioroids but not AIs are missing the fact that both are sapient/intelligent entities, and are following biochauvinistic biases. Also, the issues of slavery are suddenly no longer black-and-white when you make bioroids who are genuinely happier doing their jobs than humans are leading their leisurely lives. * == In truth, they're nano-assembled, not grown in the traditional sense. ** == The other significant group of intelligent tools. |
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09-18-2013, 06:51 AM | #33 |
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They may not have sapient AIs nor have they developed bioroid technology. Remember, we're trying to develop an interesting setting - saying 'oh, but this technology would make it so there's no point in anyone ever doing anything' is unhelpful except to say 'then that technology does not exist in the setting' or something similar.
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09-18-2013, 06:56 AM | #34 | ||
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09-18-2013, 07:09 AM | #35 | |
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On top of purchase price and weekly upkeep for the robot/bioroid, financing is also a massive factor, if it takes the place of a single $500 a week worker, then at car interest rates it'd take 40 years to pay for itself, which is a bad investment, even if it takes the place of three $500 a week workers it'd only pay for itself in 5 years which is also a dubious investment. Same applies for manufacturing something on site vs shipping it in from off-world, if your nanofac is going to be more expensive to manufacture on-site due to limited production capability, product may be made off-planet in a richer world's bigger nanofac. |
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09-18-2013, 07:11 AM | #36 | |
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To make there be zero Open Source / Public Domain stuff? That basically means that patents never expire, IP charity is prohibited etc. etc. Sounds like either willingly making a Dystopia, or making a Straw Dystopia, depending on nuances. |
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09-18-2013, 07:23 AM | #37 | |
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Assuming that an average job at TL9 earns $3,600 per month (normal for this TL), and that a bioroid costs $150,000 (this is a bit on the high end, such as some specialist models), a bioroid with Status 0 upkeep will pay for itself in 50 months = slightly over 4 years. The important bit is that it keeps paying for itself after those 4-5 years. Even if we assume a short-lifetime bioroid (e.g. 25 years due to Short Lifespan 1 [-10] + Self-Destruct [-10]). A 24% annual return on interest seems like a good deal compared to many other options. |
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09-18-2013, 10:13 AM | #38 | |
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In order to get a payout in 50 months you're saying a $0 upkeep for the Bioroid/Robot, are you saying they need neither food/energy nor servicing/storage? |
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09-18-2013, 10:17 AM | #39 | |
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I subtracted the Status 0 upkeep from the money a bioroid makes for its owner. I suspect many are kept at less than Status 0, though the savings are minimal compared to the overall monthly income. |
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09-18-2013, 10:46 AM | #40 | ||
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Running the numbers given, I get a match-out at 24 years, with a final profit of $45k for the bioroid/robot before it stops functioning at 25 years. That's a bad business choice. The numbers I ran using 10% a year, compounded daily, give me $150k capital being worth $1,761,732.09 after 25 years. The robot/bioroid, with profits also being compounded daily at 10% a year, being worth $1,806,859.28 after 25 years. Due to initial capital risk outlay alone the bioroid/robot isn't worth it. |
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