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12-11-2017, 07:14 AM | #22 |
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Re: "Medieval" fantasy with tech 2?
Conan feels appropriately TL 2 to me, although I've read Sprague de Camp more recently than Howard.
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12-11-2017, 07:21 AM | #23 |
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Re: "Medieval" fantasy with tech 2?
Howard, to borrow someone else’s comment, sets his Conan stories on giant 3D stage sets. Some of them are stage sets of TL1 places, and some of them represent TL4 places. Sweating the details may be unwise.
Whereas Tolkien sets his stories in a place where he wanted to live; a version of the world of his beloved late TL2/early TL3 heroic sagas, but with TL5 domestic comforts. Sweating the details et cetera.
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12-11-2017, 09:02 AM | #24 |
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Re: "Medieval" fantasy with tech 2?
To be fair, Yag-Kosha's race is probably TL 12^... :D
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12-11-2017, 09:35 AM | #25 | |
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Aquilonia and Nemedia have knights in plate who fight with greatswords. Call it c. 1500 AD. Zingara and Argos have TL4 sailing ships without cannons. Zingarans also have advanced rapier fighting. Maybe even late 1600s as Howard borrowed from pirate stories there. The Turanians are the Turks from around the time of the Siege of Vienna with Yezdigerd standing in for Sulieman the Magnificent. Stories from Vendyha and Iranstan actually borrow from Howard's Indian historical fiction set during the Raj. They are at least the equal of the Moguls. None of the other Hyborian Kingdoms are below TL3. The Cimmerians, Aesir, Vanir, the Black Kingdoms and all those "hill" tribes are at least TL2 because they work iron rather than bronze. The Picts are TL0 because they work no metal. Stygia and Shem also come in under the "iron rather than bronze" clause even though they mimic even earlier historical eras. Khitai is rather China-like but mostly TL3 without signs of China's early TL4 things.
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12-11-2017, 10:09 AM | #26 |
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'Proper' zinc brass has been around for long enough to be TL2 quite easily, and the Romans used it for coins. Pure zinc is more like TL3, but you don't need to be able to make that to make brass. Of course this doesn't mean that it's common enough at TL2 that doorknobs are commonly made of it. OTOH, Bilbo was a fairly rich man, and it may well have appealed to him or one of his ancestors to have a doorknob made of a rare and moderately expensive metal.
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12-11-2017, 02:30 PM | #27 | |
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Spears were always a battlefield staple all the way to near modern times. Bayonets are just heavy spearheads that you put on rifles after all.
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12-11-2017, 06:31 PM | #28 |
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A lot of Roman armour that is claimed to be bronze is actually brass.
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12-11-2017, 06:40 PM | #29 |
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How does brass armor compare to bronze?
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12-11-2017, 07:54 PM | #30 |
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There is a technical difference between brass and bronze?
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