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09-01-2017, 08:39 AM | #1 |
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Bards, songs, and spells
So, it looks like DFPRG has cleaned up Bard abilities a bit, but there are some things I still don't quite "get" and was wondering if I'm missing something.
First, it looks like bard song abilities require continual singing/playing, and the effects end if they don't. This is defined as a series of concentrate manuvers. Spells, on the other hand seem to be simplified so that a bard needs to sing to CAST, but the effects happen for their normal duration regardless if the bard keeps singing. Assuming I got the above correct, there is a bit of a situation that I'm not quite sure on. "Concentrate" is normally combat maneuver, that is it takes up a characters action for that combat turn. Except that isn't true for maintained spells. These (for whatever reason) can be concentrated on, but still allow a second spell to be cast (at a penalty). My question is, how does Bard Song work into this? If you are playing an interment to maintain a bard song ability (a concentrate maneuver), can you still sing/cast a spell? Is this at -3, as if it was another spell? My reading of RAW makes me think that you CAN'T really do anything other than concentrate on your playing/maintaining ability's effect. But maybe I've missed something.
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09-01-2017, 04:40 PM | #2 | |
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Re: Bards, songs, and spells
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09-02-2017, 02:58 AM | #3 |
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Re: Bards, songs, and spells
All Bard spell casting requires you to sing. I would be reluctant to allow a character to cast a spell whilst using a Bard Song.
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09-02-2017, 08:41 AM | #4 |
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09-02-2017, 09:46 AM | #5 |
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Re: Bards, songs, and spells
They're singing a Bard song, not singing to cast a spell. Different purposes.
It's like - I'm holding a sword in my hand, I can't hold a dagger at the same time (with the same hand). |
09-02-2017, 09:51 AM | #6 |
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Re: Bards, songs, and spells
If you have an ability with Accessibility (Only while holding a weapon), you can still attack with the weapon.
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