08-21-2020, 01:07 PM | #4971 | |
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I suspect that if they're going the Unilateral Disarmament route that there would be powers rushing to fill that void- the Americans and Soviet Union no doubt, but also you could have some third powers try to fill the void. France and India comes to mind. There is also the reaction of factions within the United Kingdom itself. In OTL, there were rumors of a possible coup in the late 1960s of various powers within the UK upset over the withdrawal from east of Suez and domestic policy of the Wilson government. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold...#The_1968_plot There could many unexpected players and events in this timeline. Last edited by Kymage; 08-21-2020 at 01:15 PM. |
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08-21-2020, 03:50 PM | #4972 | |
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DeGaulle's success in France could inspire conservative elements in Britain to rally around a similar WWII era savior, such as Lord Mountbatten (who coup plotters tried to entice in 1968). Or the pied-noire attempted French coup could be successful on this timeline, maybe inspired to fight against the leftism across the Channel. Last edited by fchase8; 08-23-2020 at 07:36 PM. Reason: wrong year |
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08-21-2020, 04:37 PM | #4973 |
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1968, and his fame and profile weren't really comparable to de Gaulle.
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08-21-2020, 08:00 PM | #4974 | |
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08-21-2020, 08:04 PM | #4975 | |
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08-22-2020, 05:28 PM | #4976 |
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Here's a link to the Mauritius Penny which involves fascists and codes.
I picked the year of the break when Britain leaves NATO as maximizing both similarity and disruption. So I'm going to reference the ages of various fictional spies at this time. James Bond probably born in 1920. He'd be 37. Note Flemming's sketch of Bond to see what Bond was supposed to look like. George Similey would logically be about fifty, but Le Carre did change his age several times, so he could be younger if it suits you. John Steed is thirty-five years old. Emma Peel is probably 19 years old and running her dead father's corperation. Cathy Gale is likely about thirty-two. Matt Helm is 34 years old. Remember, his job is to hunt and kill dangerous foriegn agents. Modesty Blaise was born sometime between 1928 and 1930, so she's between 29 and 31. Remember, she remembers nothing before 1945. Napoleon Solo is likely 25 years old. Remember he's Bond's cousin and far less willing to kill than most on this list. Illya Kuryakin would be about 24 and probably in the Russian Army. Remember, in this setting he's the foe. A decent man on the other side. April Dancer would be about 15. She'd be an interesting encounter. Alexander Waverly is likely younger than the actor who played him. If you assume that Mr. Waverly is as old as Leo G. Carroll then he's 71. I'd make him 60 or so. Finally, Derek Flint is about 29. Remember that both Helm and Flint are both parodies of James Bond just like Austin Powers, although with the action/laughs balance tited towards action.
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08-22-2020, 05:50 PM | #4977 |
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The movie Helm is a bad parody. The book Helm is a more realistic version of a a spy with license to kill.
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08-22-2020, 06:50 PM | #4978 |
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The book Helm wants to say something about the idea of the license to kill and does it with humor. The film Helm is only about sending up the superspy genre while giving Dean Martin a vehicle to do both action and comedy. The more serious/dark sides of the book didn't interest them. Still, the films are fun, silly fun, but fun.
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08-22-2020, 07:32 PM | #4979 | |
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Also, as far as I've read, none of the divergences redraw the maps. It's mostly video games getting their mainstream renaissance a decade early and the (sometimes massive, but not THAT massive) ripple effects. Like: MTV does a gaming review show from 1995 to 2000, Avril Lavigne takes up skateboarding during about of laringitis and becomes a pro on the level of Tony Hawk, Al Gore testifies in favor of video games during the Doom/Mortal Kombat hearings because he played the original, unbutchard-for-cart-space, SNES-CD version of 'Secret of Mana'. Tupac, B.I.G., and Cobain survive their brushes with death, Eminem dies before he gets famous in a argument over a Nintendo, Columbine fizzles out with only two deaths, The 1996 Atlanta Olympics Bombing is far worse, OJ Simpson momicide/suicide instead of double homicide, Fundamentalist Christianity takes a hit after the Atlanta Bomber goes on to nearly attack the US launch party for SMT: Devil Summoner and a major figurehead straight up endources the bomber, etc. And that's all before 2000. This story is AWESOME. |
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08-22-2020, 08:02 PM | #4980 |
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What about John Drake (Danger Man)
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