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Old 05-29-2010, 01:23 PM   #1
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Default FM-2030 in 2100?

I was thinking the other day, in the THS setting did FM-2030 get defrosted as planned? If so he could quite possibly be the oldest posthuman in the setting. Any idea what he's up to nowadays circa 2100?
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Old 06-07-2010, 08:34 PM   #2
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I was thinking the other day, in the THS setting did FM-2030 get defrosted as planned? If so he could quite possibly be the oldest posthuman in the setting. Any idea what he's up to nowadays circa 2100?
I'm not 100% sure about this because it's been a loooong time since I read the THS setting, but I think the old style cryonic freezing posed some problems with brain peeling technology in the THS universe. I 'think' that many of the cryo's are only able to have shadows or imperfect shadows made of their original minds due to the freezing damaging the brain, etc.

edit!: Your pardon. I note at the end of that article. They mention another type of suspension. In which case I have no idea. Does THS mention this newer type of preservation and how it pertains to future revival rates?
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Old 06-07-2010, 09:06 PM   #3
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Transhuman Space p. 79:
"Fragments are often produced when attempting to destructively upload a person who, after dying, was not immediately placed in nanostasis. If he was frozen using older cryonics techniques, or there was a delay of several minutes or more. then there is a high likelihood of retrieving only a fragment rather than a ghost. In areas where ghosts are treated like people, fragments are treated like people with mental illness or amnesia."

TS p. 128:
"Since 2076, it has been possible to upload the mind of someone frozen using pre-nanostasis cryonic suspension. The practice of cryonic suspension began in 1967 and was commercialized after 1972."

TS p. 133:
"The medical science of the last two decades can frequently [...] bring people back to life from cryonic suspension, but it is often helpless in fixing disruption to brain structure. The result is temporary or permanent memory loss."

TS p. 167:
"A corpse preserved via cryonics has an extra -3 [to Brainpeeling rolls] due to cell damage from freezing."
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Old 06-09-2010, 08:36 AM   #4
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They mention another type of suspension. In which case I have no idea. Does THS mention this newer type of preservation and how it pertains to future revival rates?
Apparently, FM-2030 was preserved by vitrification, rather than ordinary freezing. There are some reasons to believe this reduces damage (see the FAQ for scientists at Alcor.org for more details). But it's hardly nanostasis.
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