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Old 04-24-2019, 12:34 PM   #1271
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Ah, sorry about that, i was confused -- I thought the "new coins" priority for 2019 meant you were planning a second series of coins after the Illuminati coins kickstarter was complete.
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Old 04-24-2019, 12:35 PM   #1272
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Ah, sorry about that, i was confused -- I thought the "new coins" priority for 2019 meant you were planning a second series of coins after the Illuminati coins kickstarter was complete.
https://twitter.com/SJGames/status/1102612551685292032
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Old 04-24-2019, 01:47 PM   #1273
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Thanks for the annual report again, those are always super interesting.

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I always sigh a little when I look at their top products lists, since the Steve Jackson games I play are pretty much, "Everything except Munchkin." But, hey, if Munchkin keeps the lights on so that all of the other games can get published....
Same here, although I don't even play much else than GURPS (and not even Dungeon Fantasy, although I did buy several products in that line to help out). I get something else every now and then to support the company (a couple Munchkins, Zombie Dice, some Ogre) but I'm afraid of what's going to happen when Munchkin's popularity eventually goes away. Hopefully SJG will be able to strike gold a second time before then.

There are a couple of things that stand out to me as a mainly RPG-oriented customer:

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GURPS On Demand. We put quite a bit of time into this program in 2018, with over a dozen GURPS titles released as print-on-demand books during the year. The number of each that needs to sell is higher than we would like, especially since some of the books have yet to recover the costs to prepare them for POD sale. We'll review the program and then decide what happens next.
Here I wholeheartedly agree with Kromm:

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I don't empathize with fans of hardcopy; living in a smallish apartment as I do, and with massive hard drives being cheaper than square footage and small enough to take up negligible space, I prefer media and packaging that don't have me stumbling over books, magazines, boxes, cassettes, discs, etc. I do sympathize, though;
These days, my consumption of RPG PDFs is easily outpacing my consumption of dead-tree RPG books by a factor of 10. I get proper books only for things that I will actually need during play, and/or that are actually gorgeous. A lot of GURPS material is super awesome for helping the GM prepare an adventure, but it's generally not something you need to refer back to during play, so PDF-only is enough for me. Plus, as a GM, I tend to hoard that stuff up like an angry dragon -- "a sourcebook on uplifted dinosaurs in a steampunk era? sure, that might be useful some day!". PDFs make hoarding super easy, especially in a place where square-footage is crazy expensive (I live on the other side of the country from Kromm... you probably know which city I'm talking about :) ).

Sometimes, for those things that are indeed helpful at the table, I might upgrade to the printed version years later (if it's still in print or available as POD) if I do end up running that game, and that not only relates to GURPS On Demand but also to the other thing that caught my eye:

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In July, we announced that we were shifting our focus and taking the steps necessary to distance our operations from the industry's accelerating treadmill model for new releases.
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If 2017 was the year for new games, 2018 was the bigger, louder sequel. Thousands of new titles were released in 2018, with some coming and going so fast that even professionals missed the release. Many of those games got pushed to the clearance racks faster than ever before; during the winter holiday sales, some games released as recently as September were already on deep discount.
I don't know how much those remarks relate to RPGs vs. board games, but it's interesting since it does affect how much stock companies are willing to print and, therefore, how much is still available a couple years later.

Other than that, small detail: the page title (that shows up in your browser's tab) says "Report to Stakeholders for 2017" instead of "for 2018".

Also, I'm confused, the forum is showing me pages 130 to 133 even though page 129 seems to be the last one (and the one this post shows up on).
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Old 04-24-2019, 01:54 PM   #1274
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Also, I'm confused, the forum is showing me pages 130 to 133 even though page 129 seems to be the last one (and the one this post shows up on).
There is a vBulletin bug that sometimes, randomly, throws up phantom pages when there have been deleted posts in a thread. Ignore it.
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Old 04-24-2019, 03:16 PM   #1275
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Thanks for the report. I really appreciate the transparency and the introspection that went into it.

As others have noted, I wish my favorites (GURPS and Ogre) were higher in the list, and I have hopes that they'll hang on for future years. I do own a few Munchkin products, but I really don't play it any more. So I have to say thank you to Munchkin for supporting the company so that you folks can create the games I do play.
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Old 04-24-2019, 03:37 PM   #1276
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I'm afraid of what's going to happen when Munchkin's popularity eventually goes away. Hopefully SJG will be able to strike gold a second time before then.
What gives me hope about that is SJG's track record of hits, from Ogre to Car Wars to GURPS to Munchkin to Zombie Dice.

What gives me despair is the nature of today's game market. If any of those were to come out today, they'd be one-and-done games at best rather than being evergreens.
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Old 04-24-2019, 04:35 PM   #1277
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Always good to read another stakeholder's report!

As other have said, I hope to see the Car Wars kickstarter run in 2019.

Thanks for another great year with SJGames.

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Old 04-24-2019, 05:14 PM   #1278
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SJGames has a track record for staying business. They have a low the difference between what they may want to release and what they need to release. I am also surprised at how nimble they are in exploiting opportunities in this market. TFT was released and they were immediately able to follow up on the enthusiasm for the game. They do good work.
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Old 04-24-2019, 06:27 PM   #1279
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Good to see GURPS Characters in the top 40. Did the release of the DFRPG lead to a noticeable bump in overall GURPS sales? (especially from newcomers? - not sure if you parse that out though.)

So that question popped into my mind, when reading the stakeholder's report. But I also noticed this in regard to 2019 goals: "Continue to improve on our Kickstarter efforts [with] a second GURPS project (following the first of the year, Dungeon Fantasy Monsters 2, ....), as well as some other ideas that we're not yet ready to reveal." A second GURPS project for Kickstarter..... Another boxed set? Or some other equally interesting fun thing?
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Old 04-25-2019, 08:14 AM   #1280
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The report raises some interesting questions:

"And as we watch the distribution network continue to transform, with shorter sales windows for new products, we direct more of our energy to Kickstarter where we can judge demand for a title before taking the finished work to print."

Do you find that you've had to take on the responsibility for tasks that were previously provided by distributors (pre-order collection, marketing and freight-forwarding to retailers)?

Imagine that you had a built-in world-wide distribution network (like Asmodee). Could you judge demand and manage the sales windows for your games better? Or are the hobby distributors losing their ability to consolidate supply and demand?
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