05-18-2017, 08:33 AM | #91 |
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Re: [Modern Firepower] Technothriller gear for secret DHS team in 2017
You would want something like the G3KA4 since the collapsing stock doesn't add width. She could probably have the 12" barrel shortened to 8" like the MC-51. That would get the overall length down to 24" collapsed. That could plausibly fit in the bottom of some saddlebags.
I'd have to do some research on an alternate caliber. Nothing is coming to mind right now. 7.62x51 has been widely regarded as being too powerful to fire full auto out of a rifle, so there really hasn't been any development of a full auto rifle with more power than that. Last edited by clu2415; 05-18-2017 at 10:00 AM. |
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Motorcycles (Harley or a visually similar type)
As it happens, Ms. Ilana Rubio, the undercover agent with ST 20 who needs commesurately powerful weapons, will also require a powerful motorcycle as part of her undercover persona as an outlaw biker seeking contacts for meth and cocaine supply across the US border from Mexico.
What would be a real-world example of the TL7 Hvy. Bike on p. BS464 and how would the GURPS stats differ, if at all, for a TL8 Harley or similar bike that would mark the rider as a biker flush with disposable income? The player expressed interest in a Moto Guzzi V7 III Stone motorcycle instead. As far as I understand, most One-Percenter clubs in the US require riding cruiser-type bikes and the vast majority of them have a strong attachment to American-made motorcyles. Would riding an Italian racer be detrimental to a cover ID as an influential female in an outlaw biker club*? If such a bike would not ruin the cover, what stats should it have? *Even if she might not be permitted to officially join, the wives and girlfriends of members may certainly be powerful figures in motorcycle clubs, especially if they have contacts with drug cartels to supply product at attractive prices.
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I mean just terrible. Gang rape levels of terrible. [EDIT] But on topic: If you are willing to ignore reality on this one and posit all Female 1%er MCs (or even mixed clubs) then... She'll never hear or see the end of jokes about her choice of bike. She can expect daily pranks, like someone leaving spaghetti on her bike with a note that reads "In case it needs more fuel". Nothing that will damage the bike, but you get the idea. When I hung out in a bar that saw both 1% and regular bikers, I knew a guy called Honda Bob (he had a Honda Softail). Every day someone would give him a take out order of white rice, or a handful of soy sauce packets, or the like, "in case the nip/jap bike/rice rocket needed fuel". Every day. As though the joke didn't get old the second time. After 6 months of this Bob finally broke down and spent the money and bought a real Softail (Harley obviously). Within a week the guys in his club gave him a new vest, with the name "Softail Bob" on the back, and he never heard another peep about the honda he used to ride. Now, while there is a deep love for American made bikes and a deep disdain for foreign trash... it has to be said there are some old foreign bikes that generate instant respect in US MCs. Old Triumphs, the Ducati Apollo, etc. The only new non-US cruiser that I know of that has instant "give this biker respect" appeal is the Triumph Rocket III. The guy I know who rides one still gets some flak, but nothing in the league of what Honda Bob had to put up with. Now... having said all that, the Moto Guzzi V7 III Stone could easily be given cruiser handle bars and get some respect. It's got a good look... aside from the "lean-forward" racer handle bars. If the Player is dead set against riding American, she might look to the Triumph Rocket III, it's a beast of a machine and most American MCs give it grudging respect. [/EDIT] Last edited by evileeyore; 05-18-2017 at 11:07 PM. |
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Re: [Modern Firepower] Technothriller gear for secret DHS team in 2017
Okay. I just did 10 seconds of digging on Mexico and motorcycles....
Her choice is terrible unless she wants to be known (and remembered vividly) as the "chick on the monster"... 50% of motorcycles sold in mexico are Italika bikes and Italika only makes cycles up to 250cc engines*. The Moto Guzzi V7 III Stone is a) a twin 744cc engine and b) in a limited run of only 750 being made. She will stand out. If that's her aim, she's good. Mexicans seem to prefer the look of racers. * The largest Mexican made bike was the Carabella twin 350cc made back in 1966 (or so) and the company is gone, having been bought out by Yamaha (I think?). |
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Something tells me that even hardened criminals will be very polite to her. And if not, she's more than willing to perform attitude adjustments with her fists of fury. Quote:
That being said, even outlaw bikers aren't cardboard cutouts. The wives and girlfriends of club members may not be official parts of the clubs, but they can be influential even so. I had thought that her cover was as the girlfriend of the Sergeant-at-Arms of some chapter of one club or another, a real person in prison secretly providing information to Homeland Security Investigations and backing up her cover as part of the terms of his secret plea bargain deal. Her cover would have been used several times before and been established as someone with contacts among Mexican DTOs. Mind you, she won't be dealing with outlaw bikers in her role. She'll be dealing with people from Mexican cartels and she'll have one or two other people along who will be covered as male outlaw bikers accompanying her. Quote:
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Cruiser handlebars look like the only configuration you could use for driving all day over empty desert highways, but they also look like they'd be adversely affect handling during the inevitable high-speed chase in city traffic. How much work is it to convert a cruiser configuration bike into a more maneuverable and responsive setup? Is it something that could be done in less than an hour with a toolkit and spare parts carried in a pickup? Or a couple of days of work? Quote:
Of course, there is some value in being able to use her bike without wearing clothing that identifies as her cover persona and being able to fade into traffic that way. That being said, if she wanted to disappear, she'd probably change clothing and be picked up in a car by the back-up security element. They might even have a light and unremarkable motorcycle along on a pick-up truck. Power, handling and speed are fairly important considerations, if only because Ms. Rubio is an adrenaline junkie with a massive competative streak and Driving (Motorcycle) at skill 18. If the bike could incorporate a hidden compartment with space for a carbine that is 31" in overall length with the stock collapsed (AR-15 type, Alexander Arms Beowulf upper on an M4 lower receiver, 12" barrel, Magpul CTR stock), that would be awesome. Especially if there is space in there somewhere for some extra stuff as well.
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Undercover communications gear
Does anyone know what brand and model of radio, throat mic and earpiece ICE Homeland Security Investigators are using in 2017 on undercover missions? Or the DEA, for that matter?
Or what they think would be nice to have? What kind of communications gear do the Secret Service use? Special Agent Ilana Rubio will probably have been issued new communication gear when she transferred laterally from the DEA to the ICE/HSI. I have no idea what she would have been issued, however, or even if undercover agents receive a smaller, more concealable radio than the Motorola XTS 5000 Model III.* Nor do I have any idea whether they get actually concealable earpieces and throat mics or ones that any competent opposition will spot instantly. As Agent Rubio is now working for the Onyx Rain task force, where operatives are sometimes permitted to acquire commercial off-the-shelf equipment if it is clearly better suited to their operational requirements than government issue, she might have obtained new covert earpiece and throat mic, if sufficiently advanced models are available. I'd like to provide manufacturers and model names for all the gear that the character carry, but I have no idea which of the innumerable covert communication kits and accessories that Google shows me are worthless mall ninja toy gear and what is actually usable in the field. Does anyone know about real high-quality covert headsets, earpieces or throat mics? *Which, while a fine piece of gear, is hardly compact or concealable.
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Re: [Modern Firepower] Technothriller gear for secret DHS team in 2017
The Yamaha XT225 is a good example of a cheap, lightweight, durable, seen world over bike that fits easily in the back of a truck, and can soldier on and off road being a dual sport (and has optional kick start even)
I would not want to take it to a serious biker event though. The local truck stop I frequented once hosted 'Bike Day', of the 1500+ motorcycles that showed up, only 4 were metric, and only 1 was a tiny little dual sport in rainbow colors that looked like a plastic Powerwheels toy |
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The misogyny runs so very deep... that unless this was a long established cover, and very oddly shaped club, and she did some extreme things to gain trust (committing multiple murders)... The problem is that the cartels have cell phones and have dealt with US 1%ers before and are pretty misogynistic themselves. There is nothing stopping them from calling around to find out who these people are (has anyone else dealt with them, etc). There are just too many problems with the idea of female 1%er. However... female criminal latin ganger is not uncommon and poses far less of the id spoiling problems above. The Latin Kings (and Queens) have long been a gang that recognizes equal partnership of men and women. They also do not buy into the "cruiser lifestyle" and are very fond of racing bikes. Quote:
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She's looking at an external holster for anything larger than medium sized pistol. And even if she goes with a cruiser with a long seat (or touring baggage compartments*), it isn't going to be any sort of "quick draw capable". [EDIT] * Actually... this could work on a racer. It looks a bit "dumb", but if built just right would allow for a long (31") weapon to sit under the seat and luggage box. And then there's always 'ye olde saddlebags' that if done right could give her just over 31" sideways... [/EDIT] Last edited by evileeyore; 05-19-2017 at 08:51 AM. |
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