[WWII] SdKfz 231 6x4 armored car (Germany)

[copeab]

Originally Posted by fredtheobviouspseudonym

Has anyone ever statted (in GURPS 3rd edition) the B-24 Liberator?

I posted it here about two years ago:

http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=66397

[Michele]

Originally Posted by copeab

Boy, I should have waited another day to post this design ...

No problem! I see you've edited, that's fine now.

[Phaelen Bleux]

Originally Posted by copeab

Subassemblies: Heavy Small Wheeled chassis +3, Medium Weapon turret +2, ten off-road wheels +1.

Ten wheels, or eight wheels?

Originally Posted by copeab

I posted it here about two years ago:

Egads, has it already been two years?? It seems like not that long ago!

[RyanW]

Originally Posted by Phaelen Bleux

Ten wheels, or eight wheels?

The wheels on the two rear axles are doubled up, so it's got 2 wheels in the front and eight in the rear. Best picture I can find showing that.

In case of confusion, there was a 6x4 and 8x8 SdKfz 231, built on the same basic hull but with quite different suspension. Also, the front of the 6x4 became the back of the 8x8.

[copeab]

Originally Posted by Phaelen Bleux

Ten wheels, or eight wheels?

Six wheels. To save time when writing up vehicles, I use a similar vehicle. In this case, the BA-10 ... which had 10 wheels. Fixed.

[copeab]

Originally Posted by RyanW

The wheels on the two rear axles are doubled up, so it's got 2 wheels in the front and eight in the rear. Best picture I can find showing that.

Hmm. It had been a mistake on my part but seeing that picture now I wonder ...

[RyanW]

Originally Posted by copeab

Six wheels. To save time when writing up vehicles, I use a similar vehicle. In this case, the BA-10 ... which had 10 wheels. Fixed.

Originally Posted by copeab

Hmm. It had been a mistake on my part but seeing that picture now I wonder ...

Yeah. I would personally have written it up as six, and assumed that the double rear wheels were just part of what made it off-road wheels, but I figured that was your reasoning. Of course, you've made a lot more vehicles than I have. Barring an official rule turning up somewhere, I'd likely follow your lead.

[fredtheobviouspseudonym]

Originally Posted by copeab

I posted it here about two years ago:

http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=66397

Thank you -- missed it first time around.

[Phaelen Bleux]

Originally Posted by RyanW

Yeah. I would personally have written it up as six, and assumed that the double rear wheels were just part of what made it off-road wheels, but I figured that was your reasoning. Of course, you've made a lot more vehicles than I have. Barring an official rule turning up somewhere, I'd likely follow your lead.

I think the double wheels count as two wheels each; while I don't have an official GURPS vehicle to point to, an "18 wheeler" truck counts each double wheel separately.

Also, I thought we were talking about this:

http://hsfeatures.com/sdkfz231gp_1.htm

[copeab]

Originally Posted by Phaelen Bleux

I think the double wheels count as two wheels each; while I don't have an official GURPS vehicle to point to, an "18 wheeler" truck counts each double wheel separately.

Right. I should have looked at more photos and not just at the 6x4 designation. I'll fix the write-up.

Also, I thought we were talking about this:

http://hsfeatures.com/sdkfz231gp_1.htm

That's in Iron Cross. It was the result of the poor off-road performance of the earlier SdzKfz 231.