Aid as a healing spell

Bestial Warlust · 12-09-2019, 05:32 PM

Going by the spell description of the Aid spell this seems like it could be used as a temporary heal spell. Cast on a down figure it could be enough to revive someone for at least two hours until first aid or some other solution is applied. Does this sound correct or am I missing something about the spell.

hcobb · 12-09-2019, 05:59 PM

ITL 18: "that ST must be used within 2 turns, or it is lost."

Take two typical mid-level wizards, each is ST 6, DX 14, IQ 20 with a 20 point powerstone in a staff.

Turn one Abby takes a light crossbow bolt for 10 damage and is now at adjST -4. Betty uses her powerstone to cast +5 ST Aid on Abby. Abby loses her turn to act because she fell down.

Turn two Abby uses the five points of Aided ST to cast Aid 5 ST on herself. On a successful roll she is again at ST 1 and has another two turn. (Is it legit to cast yourself down to -4 ST? Aren't you supposed to stop once you reach ST zero?)

Abby continues to cast self-Aid on herself until she fails.

Bestial Warlust · 12-09-2019, 07:36 PM

Ack! thanks I'm used to d&d where a turn = 10 minutes, here the turns are 5 seconds.

Skarg · 12-09-2019, 11:16 PM

Yeah, in theory it could be done, but it would require a ton of energy to keep going for very long since the spells only last ten seconds (2 turns).

Any time spent at ST 0 or higher thanks to Aid would I think not count towards the one hour deadline to restore ST to 0, or to accomplish a revival. So if there's some race to get that done, Aid spells could at least buy you some more seconds or minutes. Probably not hours, though, since each minute would cost 6 ST per point of damage they are negative.

hcobb · 12-10-2019, 03:23 AM

What happens when a figure spends 10 seconds at ST 0 followed by 59 minutes at ST negative five over and over again for a week?

Skarg · 12-10-2019, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hcobb

What happens when a figure spends 10 seconds at ST 0 followed by 59 minutes at ST negative five over and over again for a week?

They permanently die 60 minutes and 10 seconds after going negative the first time.

Restoring to ST 0 by the Aid spell is not listed as one of the ways that the hour-to-permanently die gets reset.

hcobb · 12-10-2019, 03:48 PM

How many healing potions can a figure pull out of their belt pouch and drink in 10 seconds?

larsdangly · 12-10-2019, 05:28 PM

My players don't tend to find or make many healing potions, but if the issue came up I'd say you can uncork and consume 1 per turn.

Skarg · 12-10-2019, 06:14 PM

I'd say one turn to ready and open if you have both hands free. And at least one turn to drink a potion.

Helborn · 12-11-2019, 12:18 PM

Plus SIX Turns to get it out of the Backpack (ITL 70) plus whatever time it takes to get TO your backpack. (2 Turns just to take it off).

BTW - it should not take any longer to drink a potion than it is to ready a molotail and light it (1 T)

Assuming it's not on your belt where it can be easily shattered......

12-09-2019, 05:32 PM	#1
Bestial Warlust Join Date: Jul 2018	Aid as a healing spell Going by the spell description of the Aid spell this seems like it could be used as a temporary heal spell. Cast on a down figure it could be enough to revive someone for at least two hours until first aid or some other solution is applied. Does this sound correct or am I missing something about the spell.

12-09-2019, 05:59 PM	#2
hcobb Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pacheco, California	Re: Aid as a healing spell ITL 18: "that ST must be used within 2 turns, or it is lost." Take two typical mid-level wizards, each is ST 6, DX 14, IQ 20 with a 20 point powerstone in a staff. Turn one Abby takes a light crossbow bolt for 10 damage and is now at adjST -4. Betty uses her powerstone to cast +5 ST Aid on Abby. Abby loses her turn to act because she fell down. Turn two Abby uses the five points of Aided ST to cast Aid 5 ST on herself. On a successful roll she is again at ST 1 and has another two turn. (Is it legit to cast yourself down to -4 ST? Aren't you supposed to stop once you reach ST zero?) Abby continues to cast self-Aid on herself until she fails. __________________ -HJC

12-09-2019, 07:36 PM	#3
Bestial Warlust Join Date: Jul 2018	Re: Aid as a healing spell Ack! thanks I'm used to d&d where a turn = 10 minutes, here the turns are 5 seconds.

12-09-2019, 11:16 PM	#4
Skarg Join Date: May 2015	Re: Aid as a healing spell Yeah, in theory it could be done, but it would require a ton of energy to keep going for very long since the spells only last ten seconds (2 turns). Any time spent at ST 0 or higher thanks to Aid would I think not count towards the one hour deadline to restore ST to 0, or to accomplish a revival. So if there's some race to get that done, Aid spells could at least buy you some more seconds or minutes. Probably not hours, though, since each minute would cost 6 ST per point of damage they are negative.

12-10-2019, 03:23 AM	#5
hcobb Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pacheco, California	Re: Aid as a healing spell What happens when a figure spends 10 seconds at ST 0 followed by 59 minutes at ST negative five over and over again for a week? __________________ -HJC

12-10-2019, 03:48 PM	#7
hcobb Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pacheco, California	Re: Aid as a healing spell How many healing potions can a figure pull out of their belt pouch and drink in 10 seconds? __________________ -HJC

12-10-2019, 05:28 PM	#8
larsdangly Join Date: Dec 2017	Re: Aid as a healing spell My players don't tend to find or make many healing potions, but if the issue came up I'd say you can uncork and consume 1 per turn.

12-10-2019, 06:14 PM	#9
Skarg Join Date: May 2015	Re: Aid as a healing spell I'd say one turn to ready and open if you have both hands free. And at least one turn to drink a potion.

12-11-2019, 12:18 PM	#10
Helborn Join Date: Aug 2005	Re: Aid as a healing spell Plus SIX Turns to get it out of the Backpack (ITL 70) plus whatever time it takes to get TO your backpack. (2 Turns just to take it off). BTW - it should not take any longer to drink a potion than it is to ready a molotail and light it (1 T) Assuming it's not on your belt where it can be easily shattered...... __________________ Helborn