07-18-2019, 01:03 PM | #11 |
Join Date: Aug 2018
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Re: "Handless Arm" parrying
No Manipulators is -50
One Arm + One Hand is -35 (essentially NFM + missing arm 1) No Fine Manipulators is -30 One Arm is -20 One Hand is -15 NFM basically seems like "no hands" and is worth twice the amount of 1H I don't know if "no arms" should be worth twice 1A (-40), but it should at least be worth slightly more than 1A+1H for -36. " It's worse than taking One Arm twice for what should be obvious reasons: the total loss of an important capacity." seems to indicate it might even be valued somewhere from -41 to -49. |
07-18-2019, 01:23 PM | #12 |
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Berkeley, CA
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Re: "Handless Arm" parrying
I'd be fine with -40. There's not a lot of room for disad values between 'no manipulators' and 'no fine manipulators'.
Alternately, we can make the points work out cleanly for most existing templates by saying 'no arms' is -40, and that 'horizontal' is incompatible with no fine manipulators (which seems fair, it's not terribly limiting that you can't do anything with your hands when you don't have hands to start with). This means existing quadrupeds replace 'no fine manipulators + horizontal' with 'no arms' for the same -40 cost. |
07-21-2019, 07:36 PM | #13 | |
Join Date: Aug 2018
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Re: "Handless Arm" parrying
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07-21-2019, 07:42 PM | #14 |
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Berkeley, CA
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Re: "Handless Arm" parrying
Horizontal does not seem to prevent you from punching. However, my point is that we can make the math work by assuming quadrupeds aren't "no fine manipulators plus horizontal", they're "no arms".
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